Hayd
Jul 25 2005, 04:45 PM
I have an unusual request list for a wedding, basically the groom has fairly specific taste. I was wondering what tunes people might suggest playing that will have a broader appeal without offending him. The last line is the biggest worry " typical party records ! Here's list as follows :
Our Favourite artists
1. gary numan
2. eminem
3. depeche mode
4. green day
5. john foxx
6. rammstein
7. linkin park
8. new order
9. duran duran
10. backstreet boys
11. nine inch nails
12. savage garden
Anything up to date if requested
We would prefer not to have christina aguilara, kylie, coldplay, will young, and typical party records.! Thanx :-)
Any help much appriciated
Cheers
Hayd
Gary
Jul 25 2005, 05:00 PM
Its not too bad...after all
1. gary numan
8. new order
9. duran duran
3. depeche mode
10. backstreet boys
Are all well known and have some real crowd-pleasing classic tunes - so plenty to work on there. Try things like Gary Newman into the Sugababes Friends electric (did I recall the right cover?), Blue Monday (of course) and True Faith from New Order, Just cant get enough from Depeche mode...
Also, looking collectively at the grooms choices above - its follows the 80's Electronic scene, with new a little new romantics chucked in too, so look at other 80's electronic bands and you get to things like Human League, Yazoo (Situation, Don't Go!), etc,etc,etc.
Then you've got...
4. green day
7. linkin park
hmmm ... ok for some, if the requests seem to be going that way - hand out the razor blades and ear plugs....you could do a nice green day karaoke by holding up cue cards with "Strum strum" written on them...
and of course, for the ballards and buffet music 12. savage garden
Even Eminem's "Without me" has a fairly good "crossover appeal" into playable music. The ones I'd have concerns about were the lesser known, and/or lesser appreciated
5. john foxx
6. rammstein
11. nine inch nails
The only thing that surprised me a little was that he's asked for "No Coldplay" which I find tends to get asked for by the same people who usually ask for Green Day and Linkin park... oh well, thats folk for you.
spinner
Jul 25 2005, 06:04 PM
"Typical party records" might mean stuff like Agadoo, The Birdie Song, Macarena etc.
In which case you may be pleased not to have to play them.
If he means some of the more mainstream stuff you may have a problem, not least if other guests start asking for it.
We've had weddings where the bride and/or groom have insisted on leaving out certain styles only to relent when their guests started asking for them.
I feel it's absolutely right to accommodate clients' requirements. However they should be aware that their taste may not be the same as their guests and your job is play something for everyone as much as possible.
BigBen
Jul 25 2005, 06:20 PM
I was with a mate last week who has seen Rammstein three times since Christmas. He said they are really heavy and go overboard on pyrotechnics, fire pouring out of their faces live on stage, etc. So it may be worth borrowing a couple of flame throwers!!
John Foxx did Burning Car if I remember my vinyl collection correctly. Not much of a dance tune but possibly his biggest hit??
Nine Inch Nails are someone else I know little about, perhaps the groom himself should be asked for specific tracks.
He should also confirm what he means by the generic term of party music.
Otherwise, it sounds quite fun - always nice to play something a bit different. However, I think Gary Numan sounds better live than studio so I'd trial a couple of live songs out of interest.
A couple of years ago I did a prom night, they had four pages of requests but included some real gems from bands I had never heard of...including Less Than Jake. They asked for History of a Boring Town, which isn't bad, but whilst researching I found covers of Greased Lightning, I Would Walk 500 Miles and Centerfold. Whilst not to everyone's taste, they do offer us alternatives.
C.S
Jul 25 2005, 06:49 PM
Green days - boulevard of broken dreams and linkin parks - numb are both playable. I find most people who like these bands really hate Coldplay and Travis.
Eskie
Jul 25 2005, 07:51 PM
| QUOTE |
Anything up to date if requested We would prefer not to have christina aguilara, kylie, coldplay, will young, and typical party records.! Thanx :-)
|
The simplest solution and to make sure you know exactly where you stand is to ask the groom to clarify what his idea of typical party records are? to make sure that you're both reading from the same book!
Ideally chat to him on the phone, if this is not possible then email him and you could try saying something along the lines of ..."...do you mean party records such as agadoo, birdie song & jive bunny? or more recent party stuff such as Hey baby, cha cha slide & macarena? or any of these type of tracks!?"
Hayd
Jul 26 2005, 07:33 AM
Thankx guys, you seem to be thinking the same way as myself , which is good. I had already sent him an e-mail to clarify the term party music and also asked for some of his favourite tracks from the lesser know artists such as rammstein , nine inch nails , john foxx etc...
Could be an unusual wedding so I'll let you know how I get on.
Cheers
Hayd
Paul Forsyth
Jul 26 2005, 07:48 AM
| QUOTE (Hayd @ Jul 26 2005, 08:33 AM) |
Thankx guys, you seem to be thinking the same way as myself , which is good. I had already sent him an e-mail to clarify the term party music and also asked for some of his favourite tracks from the lesser know artists such as rammstein , nine inch nails , john foxx etc...
Could be an unusual wedding so I'll let you know how I get on.
Cheers
Hayd |
Good move Hayd.
Loks like you could have a great night on your hands here. I've found that some of the more challenging gigs (on first glance) turn out to be really good.
Backstreet boys (probably for the girlies) there's the new single - and a real crowd pleaser is "Everybody"
John Foxx either - Underpass, no one driving, or burning car. All from the same period.
Enjoy
Vinnie
Corabar Steve
Jul 26 2005, 08:05 AM
Just 2 that came to mind....
Green Day - Basket case, or Warning,
N.I.N. - Head like a hole
OK 3 actually.
4 ... Linkin Park - In the end
You never know his friends may be into the same types of music, if they are these would definatly work.
just thought of 2 more Rammstein - Sonne, or Du Hast
Hayd
Jul 26 2005, 04:55 PM
Cheers Steve good to know someone who knows a little about NIN and Rammstein LOL
Thanks also Vinnie , they are the only 3 John Foxx songs I have anyway so I'm hoping they'll be the ones he wants.
Cheers
Hayd
Dukesy
Jul 26 2005, 05:26 PM
Just to add - make sure you know where you stand on 'guest requests' on 'their choice of music' for the reception.
Also echo the above comments.
BTW - There's a pretty fair Tubeway Army / Sugababes mixed track on the Mastermix Mash up series worth a listen if you get the chance.
Award Entertainment
Jul 27 2005, 01:50 AM
You guys are braver than me. I would have turned this function down because I know I'm not the best man for the job when it comes to that style of music.
Corabar Steve
Jul 27 2005, 07:12 AM
Just remembered the recent N.I.N. single "The hand that feeds" is fairly dancy too & for Linkin Park there's also Crawling & Papercut.
As for Jon Foxx he has about 8 albums out but I'd say the above mentioned are the best known
Maybe you should ask your client to supply any that he realy wants to be played?
For slower moments Green Day - Time of your life (good riddance), or their new one (I forget the title at the mo)
While were on Green Day of coures there's American idiot ( if you have the clean version)
Kingy
Jul 27 2005, 08:38 AM
| QUOTE (Rendezvous @ Jul 27 2005, 01:50 AM) |
| You guys are braver than me. I would have turned this function down because I know I'm not the best man for the job when it comes to that style of music. |
You & me both Richard.
It's best to know your market and limitations.
C.S
Jul 27 2005, 08:56 AM
Or perhaps do some research and expand your market ?
BigBen
Jul 27 2005, 09:02 AM
I'm with you on this one Chris. If the whole gig was required to be a style I was not familiar with then yes, pass it to somebody more experienced in that area. However, this is a wedding with family and friends of all ages. The groom has made some requests that are a bit different than the norm so you will have to play them - but there will be plenty of other people wanting to dance to Abba and Tom Jones. That's where you come in, the groom will have a great night and so will you.
ian
Jul 27 2005, 09:19 AM
| QUOTE (Corabar Steve @ Jul 27 2005, 07:12 AM) |
| For slower moments Green Day - Time of your life (good riddance) |
Not at a wedding, surely?
Award Entertainment
Jul 27 2005, 10:41 AM
| QUOTE (BigBen @ Jul 27 2005, 10:02 PM) |
| I'm with you on this one Chris. If the whole gig was required to be a style I was not familiar with then yes, pass it to somebody more experienced in that area. However, this is a wedding with family and friends of all ages. The groom has made some requests that are a bit different than the norm so you will have to play them - but there will be plenty of other people wanting to dance to Abba and Tom Jones. That's where you come in, the groom will have a great night and so will you. |
I don't know, because I haven't had a meeting with the client of course, but it sounds to me like they could be better off with someone who was passionate about and familiar with the style of music they've identified. I've turned down weddings where they wanted a Drum'n'Bass theme and also weddings for big-time HipHop fans because I'm simply NOT the best DJ for the job.
I'm probably the best MC/DJ they'll find for a semi-formal or formal wedding and I do have a massive range of music and knowledge, but I know my preferences and I know my boundaries.
Hayd
Jul 27 2005, 11:13 AM
That was my thought C.S. , with a bit of research no gig should be too much trouble and you gain good experience for the future should you encounter others with similar taste.
Although I requested an idea of what songs and styles they like I have only recieved it 3 weeks before the wedding . I have never and will never cancel a wedding or any other booking at short notice. Especially when with a little effort it should be no problem.
Cheers
Hayd
Paul Forsyth
Jul 27 2005, 11:15 AM
| QUOTE (Rendezvous @ Jul 27 2005, 11:41 AM) |
I'm probably the best MC/DJ they'll find for a semi-formal or formal wedding and I do have a massive range of music and knowledge, but I know my preferences and I know my boundaries. |
I think the majority would be with you on this one Richard, but if a bride & groom asked you to do your own thing with the exception of 6 - 10 unfamiliar tracks (that they could supply, what would you do ?
Vinnie
Award Entertainment
Jul 27 2005, 11:19 AM
Take the function of course and make it sensational. If virtually the whole night is intended to be music that I am unlikely to play at 99% of weddings, then I'm walking away.
I got over my former gig-pig mentality a long time ago and now don't feel I need to take every enquiry that comes my way.
Kingy
Jul 27 2005, 12:54 PM
| QUOTE (Rendezvous @ Jul 27 2005, 11:19 AM) |
Take the function of course and make it sensational. If virtually the whole night is intended to be music that I am unlikely to play at 99% of weddings, then I'm walking away.
I got over my former gig-pig mentality a long time ago and now don't feel I need to take every enquiry that comes my way. |
Agree again! Give this man a cigar!
There are planty of Djs out there that will be better than me at this type of gig. Its not a question of a little research. Chances are that the guests and friends of the groom are going to like similar music and by just dabling in it you may get more problems than enough. Why do some Djs think they must be all things to all people?
Just my thoughts, you are free to do whatever you want....
ian
Jul 27 2005, 02:37 PM
| QUOTE (Hayd @ Jul 27 2005, 11:13 AM) |
| That was my thought C.S. , with a bit of research no gig should be too much trouble and you gain good experience for the future should you encounter others with similar taste. |
I'd be really wary of taking gigs which were outside my "musical comfort zone". Although I suppose it's all a matter of degrees. There's a big difference between playing a "normal" gig with a few specialist tracks, and playing a totally specialist gig. Even assuming I could do the research and identify which are the current floorfillers, it might be that the cost of buying new tunes would make the gig unviable.
I'd rather turn down a gig than accept it, do badly and potentially damage my reputation and future bookings.
Dynamite Discos
Jul 27 2005, 05:21 PM
Find out exactly what he means by the no party music line - i turned up at a 21st a few weeks ago and someone said to me - we dont want any cheese. Then asked me if i had MC Hammer?!?!
:S
C.S
Jul 27 2005, 06:30 PM
Richard
| QUOTE |
| I do have a massive range of music and knowledge, but I know my preferences and I know my boundaries. |
Do you mean your personal preferences of music ? If you do then i would like to say that if i played my own musical preferences at any gigs then i am going to be doing 2 gigs a year.
| QUOTE |
| I got over my former gig-pig mentality a long time ago |
Dont understand what that means ?

Update Eskie just explained its a dj who takes any gig even if he cant really do it, to be honest i have never had that mentality and i dont know anyone who does so i must be lucky.
Kingy
| QUOTE |
| Why do some Djs think they must be all things to all people? |
I dont know if this was directed at me or not ? If it was then i dont understand why you wrote that as this is a dj thread and i certainly aint anybodies gardener.
One thing i will say is i turned full time dj in 1981 and have more or less been full time dj since then. I am not a club dj , mobile dj or a radio dj i am simply a DJ ,by this i mean whatever the gig then i research it, learn from it and better myself, i spend a lot of time making sure that gigs go well and i in no way damage a rep thats taken years to build . I move forwards and try and keep up . I cant afford to sit back and say "no that gigs too difficult because i dont know the music " I need every gig i can get and i would hate to be doing just one type of gig for the rest of my life.
Award Entertainment
Jul 27 2005, 08:11 PM
| QUOTE (C.S @ Jul 28 2005, 07:30 AM) |
| Do you mean your personal preferences of music? |
That's an excellent question, but the answer is no. What I mean is the music that I know from experience is likely to appeal to 80% of my expected guest list most of the time. My personal music preferences really don't come into it as it's not a party for my benefit, it's for my clients.
To further explain- if 'Rage Against The Machine' and 'Tool' are symbolic of the style of music that my potential client and his guests are going to want to hear to make their night a success, then there will be DJs who have a greater understanding and passion for that style of music who would give a better night of music. They probably won't entertain to the standard that I would, but the music is important and I would struggle to identify with the crowd.
When I was a gig-pig, I'd take any booking I could get, even discounting to undercut a competitor sometimes if necessary. Now I don't need to do that and I can (to some degree) select who I work for, where I work and under what conditions. It's very liberating!
Kingy
Jul 27 2005, 09:14 PM
| QUOTE (C.S @ Jul 27 2005, 06:30 PM) |
Kingy| QUOTE | | Why do some Djs think they must be all things to all people? |
I dont know if this was directed at me or not ? If it was then i dont understand why you wrote that as this is a dj thread and i certainly aint anybodies gardener.
|
No, No,No! It was not directed at anyone, just a general comment.
I just get the feeling that some Djs do put it across that they are willing to do absolutely anything, move any mountain, cross any river etc to do a job. There are Djs on here that claim to be able to do this, that and the other and clearly have no limits to the end of their talents. That may be the case. By the same token it may also not be. I have seen many, many discos turn up and they are clearly not the right guys for the job, yet people have booked them to do the function expecting them to be able to do so. A classic example of this was a couple of years back when someone ( who does not come on here) sent a retired guy to cover an 18th birthday party. The guy was totally out of his depth and admitted afterwards that he was wrong for the function, not knowing the music or the type of thing an 18 year old crowd wanted, it was not the "family party" that he was expecting.
Music knowledge is paramount. I would not take on a function that is so different to the type of gig I would willingly accept. This is down to personal choice. I am not saying that everyone should do the same, and lets face it we should all know our own limitations. Thats surely the key to a sucessful business??
BTW, whats the gardener jibe about?
Award Entertainment
Jul 28 2005, 01:15 AM
I often see DJs advertise their services thus:
"All music types for all occasions!
Specialising in weddings, engagement parties, sports and social clubs, 40th and 50th brithdays, bar mitzvahs, etc!"
That DJ isn't a specialist, they are a generalist (does that word exist yet?). I choose to specialise at quality wedding and corporate entertainment, so I'm happy to refer a job like the one mentioned above on to some other DJ who might be better suited.
C.S
Jul 28 2005, 01:36 AM
Thank you gentlemen for putting me straight there

I now see what you mean. It is easy to misunderstand what other people write, my last post tonight was read by eskie who told me on msn that he didnt get what i meant so i edited the post.
The gardener comment wasnt a jibe but my way of pointing out the way i read your post as meaning djs who claim to be able to do anything and not just djing.
Corabar Steve
Jul 28 2005, 07:28 AM
| QUOTE (Rendezvous @ Jul 27 2005, 08:11 PM) |
| To further explain- if 'Rage Against The Machine' and 'Tool' are symbolic of the style of music that my potential client and his guests are going to want to hear to make their night a success, then there will be DJs who have a greater understanding and passion for that style of music who would give a better night of music. ............but the music is important and I would struggle to identify with the crowd. |
NZ is a bit far for me tho
| QUOTE (Rendezvous @ Jul 27 2005, 08:11 PM) |
| They probably won't entertain to the standard that I would |
Snob!

Why should a Rock DJ have any lower standards than a general Party DJ? When I was doing the rock clubs/pubs I put a great deal of effort into my sets as people expect a certain standard at genre specific nights (& at least you don't have to go all "Tony Blackburn"

)
| QUOTE (Rendevous @ Jul 28 2005, 01:15 AM) |
I often see DJs advertise their services thus:
"All music types for all occasions! Specialising in weddings, engagement parties, sports and social clubs, 40th and 50th brithdays, bar mitzvahs, etc!" |
We advertise something similar, but then again there are 4 of us with very broad tastes in music. Between us there's not much we can't cover. It's (as you infer) right man for the job
Ner!
Award Entertainment
Jul 28 2005, 07:52 AM
There's no reason why a DJ who is passionate about rock shouldn't be every bit as good (or better) at entertaining a wedding crowd than me. I just think that a tux looks better than black leather waistcoat and black jeans, that's all.
JOKING!!!!! 
As for the advertising line, I was meaning single operator companies specifically.
YourBigEvent
Jul 28 2005, 08:42 AM
| QUOTE |
| I just think that a tux looks better than black leather waistcoat and black jeans |
Not on Cher it don't
Corabar Steve
Jul 29 2005, 07:31 AM
| QUOTE (ADS Entertainments @ Jul 28 2005, 08:42 AM) |
| QUOTE | | I just think that a tux looks better than black leather waistcoat and black jeans |
Not on Cher it don't |
You've not seen me in my bike leathers!
Award Entertainment
Jul 29 2005, 07:40 AM
| QUOTE (Hayd @ Jul 26 2005, 05:45 AM) |
Our Favourite artists
1. gary numan 2. eminem 3. depeche mode 4. green day 5. john foxx 6. rammstein 7. linkin park 8. new order 9. duran duran 10. backstreet boys 11. nine inch nails 12. savage garden |
There's so little in that list that I would typically play it makes me weep.
ollygeorge
Jul 29 2005, 07:56 AM
| QUOTE |
| There's so little in that list that I would typically play it makes me weep. |
ditto
Corabar Steve
Jul 29 2005, 08:14 AM
Not much I'd actually play at a gig, but with the exception of Eminem, Savage Garden & Backstreet Boys I like them all.
Getting a lot of requests for Green Day at the moment
Hayd
Aug 13 2005, 03:55 PM
Just thought I'd post the outcome on this wedding:
To my supprise it went really well, when faced with a room 3/4 full of people over 60 the groom was more than happy for me to play some 60,s and rock and roll etc for the first hour. Funny how the B&G change their tune when faced with a room full of relatives.
The Groom also informed the guests that he had made some unusual requests so when him and his m8's were moshing to Rammstein the crowd was entertained by them, not looking at me with discust
Overall a really good night many good comments from members of the family and B&G were thrilled with the evening.
In many respects I'm glad I took this booking as now I have a better undaerstanding of metal for future reference ( hopefully I won't need it though LOL ).
CHeers for everyones input
Hayd
Corabar Steve
Aug 13 2005, 04:11 PM
So what did you actually play?
Hayd
Aug 14 2005, 12:17 AM
Played lots of 80's synth seuff , new order , depeche mode, Eurythmics, aha, duran duran, visage , Bowie , Gary numan , Underpass -John foxx , police, ultravox etc
On the rock side , Basket case ,american idiot , boulevard of broken dreams ,Du Hast -Rammstein ( groom went mental to this ) , Sonne , Ich Will , Head like a hole- nine inch nails, the rasmus , busted ( could not believe it went down sooo well ! ) , Queen
Early evening , Back to the 60's mix , Cotton eyed joe, rock around the clock , monkees , other typical wedding stuff LOL
Although an unusual list for a wedding as it's what they were passionate about , it was right for the night
Corabar Steve
Aug 14 2005, 03:50 AM
| QUOTE (Hayd @ Aug 14 2005, 12:17 AM) |
| Du Hast -Rammstein ( groom went mental to this ) |
Told you!
Hayd
Aug 14 2005, 10:42 AM
You da Rock man Steve
Believe it or not they actually did the timewarp and the Cha cha slide !! odd rockers eh !
Corabar Steve
Aug 15 2005, 06:55 AM
Most Rock fans aren't as biased & narrow minded in their musical tastes as most people think. I was in Ireland a few years back (on the day of Joey Dunlop's funeral) we were in the only club in Donegal Town. It was hillarious to see 50-70 bikers out on the floor to Darude - Sandstorm (or somesuch other)
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