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Gary
How far can a Pirate Ship go?

Oh, about 30 miles to the Galleon...? biggrin.gif


Well, if you didn't find that funny, I honestly don't blame you. However, honesty wasn't something that crossed a few pirates minds when they decided to sell some ripped copies of music to various regular and one-off clients. Funnily enough...those priates aren't laughing either right now - they've been caught. Proof that dealing with the odd pirate here, and the odd pirate there really can and most definately does make a difference.

Their former customers wont be too happy either, the pirates had their client list seized too.

Its easy to ignore such legal action isnt it? 533.gif After all its always America, or Australia, or Belgium isnt it? Well, isnt it?

Not this time...this time its...Wakefield, Leeds, Bradford & Manchester, now thats a bit closer to home.

I've been given permission by Mastermix, to reproduce the following press release.


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NEWS FLASH!

18 Jul 2005 - James Hudson

Steve Michaels, a Mastermix member who owns SML & Security has taken pirating and copying discs to his heart and got off his backside and done something about it. Below is Steve's account of the hard work that has gone in by him and his team on busting several different piracy rings

Please keep reporting cases of illegal activity to both Mastermix and the BPI (see the 'links' page) as rest assured we are doing everything in our powers to protect you, the legitimate DJ.

Steve's Account
"Our team here at SML & Security have been busy bees this past few weeks working alongside Trading Standards Officer from Doncaster, Nottingham, Bassetlaw & Wakefield Council Directly in a very indescrete kind of way.

Our Security Guys have also been busy with the same councils.
Why? I hear you ask? To protect the Livelyhoods of our DJ's, KDJ's & Door Supervisors.

A lot of hard work has been carried out over the last 3 months to finally help put together a prosecution case for the various councils & the CPS. This has involved various members of the team working to gather information from other SO CALLED DJs to find out how they are obtaining DJ Only material from on copied discs, how much they pay, to who, when etc.

This has now resulted in 6 people being arrested & prosecution pending for supplying illegal merchandise , copied material etc. Their discs, cars, computers etc being confiscated & used as evidence before being incinerated.

So What? They involve direct distribution of DVD MP3's with every Mastermix product recently released including Mastermix: Summer, 80's12" Box, and Issue 228 being the latest ones.

Managers of the Public Houses are also to be visited in the near future as the DJs we have spoken to have given us the names of the places they work and other DJs who also use only the copied material.

We have also helped to end 3 large Distribution Networks inc Wakefield, Leeds, Bradford & Manchester where the material is posted out on a weekly basis, a complete list of clients of these distributers has also been ceased from 3 of the 6 people arrested, with many others to follow.

We have also helped to break up a small firm who are putting out on the streets unlicensed door supervisors with false ID etc and who have not completed or attended the new Door Supervisors Courses, again putting your lives at risk. Why? because when you work as DJs where Door Staff are in attendance, you feel safe & able to do your job to the best you can on that evening, knowing they are trained professionally to deal with many situations that may occur inc Emergency Aid.

We can say that we are proud of what we have done & many years of hard work has been put into a final push which has now come to a head and closure is looming for many people... we know who you are is all we can say.

Richard & Rob are both aware of this and have been for many months now, but it is only now that we have been given the Stand Down & clearance, that we can tell you about this. One person who was actually questioned & had equipment confiscated was a former MM Dealer and DJ Agency(Unlicensed).
I would like to thank all the crew involved in this as a few are registered on here & are MM regular customers via a MM Dealership.

This should at least in the short term, stop the little cowboys from getting Mastermix for £6 other stuff for £5 & having the same stuff as our professionals who are in the business as a business, not just as a cheap hobby to pay for a few beers.
No doubt things will start again as the circle is never really broken, but a good percentage of it has suffered severe damage. On Saturday we received a thank you letter from Sunfly & EK Karaoke as regards thier stuff being distributed on a seperate but connected network, again helped by 3 of our KDJ's & 7 others from surrounding area's who themselves have also received the same letter.

We hope you may sleep a little easier in your beds tonight, cosequenses we may suffer from this, but with the help of our Police & Security we doubt it. All will be revealed in the newspapers probably very soon when the relevant cases are due to go to court.

I apologise if this has dragged on, but now you are aware that plans have been put into action to ensure the good money which you work hard for is spent on the proper DJ ONLY Goods, which should remain DJ ONLY.

If anyone has any complaint about this matter, they can contact us via Mastermix and we will be happy to discuss it. Its your future as well as ours we are helping to safeguard.

With that i say Goodnight."

From everyone at Mastermix, we thank Steve and his team for an incredible achievement.

As for all other pirates: watch out, your time will come




Hmmm Manchester Evening Echo classified ads have several parrots for sale... thumbup.gif
DJ Marky Marc
great news

looks like some of our friends up north will be able to charge real money for there dj skills now,

good by cowboys....

I here rumors of a sting in the london area due soon..

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brianmole
smile.gif

Serves them right
Corabar Steve
Anyone going to sort the blatant selling of pirate CDs/DVDs at Bovingdon market?

Last Saturday I saw the Fantastic Four for sale on DVD It wasn't in the cinemas until yesterday!! Not only that but they had a DVD player & TV showing it!!!!

These "traders" seem to be above the law & have already put one of the legitimate stalls out of business because they're a lot cheaper.

Nice to see someone doing something about it up north, but isn't that the job of MCPS?
Kingy
I saw the Trading standards & Police raid a stall at a car boot a couple of weeks ago. Loads of stock, literally hundreds of discs. Quite a stir but they got all staff on the stall. There were about 10 police officers in plain clothes. The operation worked well, however, smaller stands were covering up their own stock and within about 10 minutes you could purchase the same discs on other stalls!

It shows how much is out there. This was only 1 event. How many more are there across the country?
Paul Forsyth
QUOTE (Kingy @ Jul 22 2005, 09:39 AM)
I saw the Trading standards & Police raid a stall at a car boot a couple of weeks ago. Loads of stock, literally hundreds of discs. Quite a stir but they got all staff on the stall. There were about 10 police officers in plain clothes. The operation worked well, however, smaller stands were covering up their own stock and within about 10 minutes you could purchase the same discs on other stalls!

It shows how much is out there. This was only 1 event. How many more are there across the country?

You're absolutely right this kind of thing is all over the place.

That said a few more visable and well publicised stings will start to drive some away, stopping it completely is always gonna be hard work, but for the work put in on this big one (no small task and very much multi agency) a big toot.gif goodjob.gif toot.gif

Well done guys

Vinnie
Gary
One of the big plus points of the raids has got to be the client/customer lists being found.

I would imagine that theres a lot of positive compliance to be instilled in someone getting a letter saying "You received a pirated copy of .... last week, and 2 dozen other titles over the last 4 months. We wont take any action now, but if we see your name on any future pirate customer lists, we'll prosecute"

Woolies here they come...
Kingy
A slight change to the original concept. How many of the retailers on here (or across the country)would sell disco equipment to a cowboy who uses copied discs? I know their hands are tied, they cant prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Dj is using them, however, I bet ALL retailers would still sell equipment to these guys!!

Discuss.......
Gary
I bet that in many cases a retailer would sell to anyone, at any opportunity.

This will be difficult for me to word, without it being taken the wrong way, but if a customer walked through the door and said "I've got £1000 to spend on gear, I thought I'd only have £500 left for gear, but a DJ mate of mine just sold me a copy of his harddrive with all his DMC, Mastermix and Now albums on it, so I can spend the full grand on gear", I wouldnt blame the retailer for selling the customer £999.99 worth of excellent gear. That might sound greedy, but I don't mean it like that, honest.

The retailer not only has all the overhead costs eg: Shop rent, lighting, heating, electricity, staff, telephone, advertising etc,etc - not to mention stock. But also, he's got the internet shops box-shifting sealed units for probably a price not far off what the retailer can barely buy the same items in for.

It gets worse, not only is the internet taking sales away from the dealer based on price, but the internet is giving customers the pre-buy knowledge and selection process (via web-reviews etc) which the customer used to strike up conversations with the retailers about...reducing still further the customers need for a real flesh'n'blood retailer... until something goes wrong, or needs a bit of physical setting up/adjustment, that is... its at these moments where the retailer is king!.

I for one cant blame a retailer for selling to anyone who wants to help pay their overheads.
DJ Marky Marc
F A C T ....


They offer a reward for the information on the people who sell pirate Movies software and music..


if you walk past a stall selling pirate movies you should call it in and earn the £500

do this a few times and you could spend the money on a new car or a holiday...

DJ SPARKO
not so long ago someone i knew got his premisis raided by police for this sort of cpoying of cds and dvds and other related copyright and fraud offenses whereby he had 3 stalls set up on salford market.

and i never had a clue. it brought home to me that so mant and even the next door neighbour etc are all up to it!!!

p.s. Why are pirates called pirates?................




















because they AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGG!

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centrestagediscos
although i am opposed to piracy, i think this is just the tip of the iceberg a quick look on ebay shows loads of sellers and you even get to pick what albums you want, im not sure what would stop it ie stiffer sentances ect or is it just on to big a scale now like drugs.
jeffwall
The whole issue is very dodgy in my opinion, people are doing it everywhere, kids downloading latest tunes from various sites available. People are doing it so much, its gunna be impossible for the authorities to stop it. Their is no difference in a teenager downloading a track off well known web sites (which cant be stopped) for their mp3 player and people getting all the weekly discs available with every album and single released in the uk on it. Although i disagree with copying music i think alot of the blame has to go to some of the greedy record companys etc that hike up the cd prices so much, its no wonder people are resorting to copyies. But its the DJ and alike that are getting looked at all the time when its far more prominent just in peoples houses! Also i think younger people have been brought up within this advanced tech age now, and just jumped on the band wagon like loads of their mates have etc etc.
The record companys should put their millions of pounds profit into encrypting music so it cannot be copied...their must be a way surely in this day and age?
Corabar Steve
QUOTE (Gary @ Jul 22 2005, 02:58 PM)
I bet that in many cases a retailer would sell to anyone, at any opportunity.

It gets worse, not only is the internet taking sales away from the dealer based on price, but the internet is giving customers the pre-buy knowledge and selection process (via web-reviews etc) which the customer used to strike up conversations with the retailers about...reducing still further the customers need for a real flesh'n'blood retailer... until something goes wrong, or needs a bit of physical setting up/adjustment, that is... its at these moments where the retailer is king!.

Of course they will, they are there to make money same as us. You never know he who starts as a cowboy may soon become legit, I did.

As for the market situation there are at least 4 stalls selling pirate CDs at Bovingdon & 2 or more for DVDs
Gary
On a different level, 17 Irish music file sharers have just hit the papers...

Web users made to pay by music industry



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  Just under half of the 17 people accused of illegally sharing music over the web by the Irish Recorded Music Association (Irma) have admitted liability and agreed to settle out of court, Jamie Smyth, Technology Reporter.

Eight internet account holders have told Irma that they will not engage in illegal sharing of music in the future. They have also agreed to pay damages of €2,000 to €6,000 to prevent legal action. The internet account holders who have agreed to settle include parents, who have admitted liability on behalf of their children, and at least one firm that did not know that one of its employees was using its network to illegally upload music, according to Irma, which said yesterday it may launch a second wave of legal actions shortly.

Last month Irma wrote to 17 internet account holders, who it claims have been guilty of "uploading" music illegally using file-sharing networks on the web. File-sharing networks such as KaZaA or Gnutella enable people to link their computers together via the web and share or upload music files stored on the machines. Irma says that at least 230,000 Irish people have downloaded tracks illegally.

In its first wave of legal actions in early July, Irma targeted internet account holders who offered to share more than 500 music tracks on their computers. Dick Doyle, director of Irma, said the common excuse given by people who were not yet admitting responsibility was that the file-sharing was undertaken by someone else using a computer in the same house.

Irma, which held a board meeting yesterday to discuss the issue of illegal file- sharing, is considering launching a new wave of actions against illegal uploaders.

Mr Doyle said its technical consultants had amassed further evidence of illegal file- sharing in April, May and June. Irma says illegal "uploading" or sharing of music on the web made a substantial contribution to a €28 million decline in music sales in the Republic between 2001 and 2004.

Irma's recent action in the Republic follows co-ordinated action in other jurisdictions such as the US and Britain.

The music industry has sent more than 11,000 letters threatening legal action to file-sharers worldwide. It claims most pay the damages and agree never to share music again.



stevie
Sparko same thing round here (Urmston) a local lad well in his 40's got done he had a room in his house with 50 dvd riters goin at once oops.gif we new him as the gut that fixed pc's at home as his full tme job! how little we new.He never offerd any locals stuff tho apart from mates rates to fix a pc !
Needless to say we aint seen him since November perhaps hes on a free holiday ?
His house is empty and for sale and nobody has seen his wife n kids.
Ahh well play with fire in the end you get burnt.


here here jeffwall hit the nail on the head ops your a spark got the plug in the socket


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