Firstly, I would like to point out that Mastermix / Music Factory or DMC is a wonderful idea.
It has fantastic mix's and jingles that any DJ would find hard not to be tapping a beat to.

Not all the mix's are my cup of tea - upto 1997, there were a lot of similar tracks issued, but the main thing is that the contributors were either DJ's or part of the Music Industry.
Which leads me too......
If you mix and record your sessions / tracks, what do you do with them?
Do you use the MP3 sites and upload them for review or share?
Do you stick them on Kazza? Do you post them on your own site?
I ask because Mastermix has an enforceable copyright on their material.....and I don't want to go down the road of music copyright again,
but would you share your mix or re-edit with other DJ's?
Would you review other DJ mix's if they were available?
Can you mix? Do you hate mix discs but mix yourself?

If there is plenty of feedback - we may be able to suggest to Chris a 'common' idea!!!

[/QUOTE]I don't want to go down the road of music copyright

Wouldnt every piece of music you used in your mix also have copyright on it ? , If you put it on your own web site for d/l I would have thought you have left yourself wide open for prosecution ??? ...

Safer sending it onto a filesharer such as Kazza ...

Although I can see why many D.J's use MP3 formats, the fact remains that it is impossible for me to legally host them on this site and something that would get us closed down very quicky.


As Ninelives as pointed out, you need the permission of each artist or their recording label, to reproduce their material, even as part of a mix. Even remixer's such as Paul Van Dyke need to seek permission of (and pay royalties to) the artist before remixing and releasing a dance mix of a praticular track.

Yes, it would be very interesting to hear the work of some of the more "hands on" D.J's who visit this forum and Mix as opposed to Mobile but I am wondering exactly how we would approach this?.

Lets all jump on the Harry Potter bandwagon...loadsa dosh to be had there.

I propose (down on one knee) that we get work on a Harry Potter & Friends Christmas Tune...lets call it "Christmas is magic"... We'll need an uptempo dance beat to it, as Im fed up with Christmas tunes that are only good enough for the background music, a dozen snow machines , a couple of owls, broomsticks, several audio clips of key dialogue from the films ...and a good Music/Film industry copyright solicitor

Yes...MC Kazza and DJ Paula could be the DJ's United answer to The Waitresses with their own Christmas Wrapping, and all we need now is for Crooksey to come along and make it rhyme.

Failing that I'm sure that Paula could help out with the supply of a Broomstick .

Mind you, after old mother rawlins has had her share of the royalties, we would possibly be left with only enough for a festive christmas twig

And speaking of which, Christmas is only 6 months away, so i'm expecting to get at least 337 pressies this year

QUOTE

And speaking of which, Christmas is only 6 months away, so i'm expecting to get at least 337 pressies this year

Really?

I think us mod's should be rewarded with anything we want from CSL otherwise...

QUOTE

Paula could help out with the supply of a Broomstick

Right up your

Copywrite laws up this end of the world are very strict and enforced,clubs here have to pay a yearly fee to get a music license just to be able to open. I wouldnt take the chance of reproducing and selling live mixes

Off to a good start!!!!

But what about those who do 'original mixes'? Or 'Copyright free' - without samples or major clips from cds, etc???

One of the questions I originally asked was:
"If you mix and record your sessions / tracks, what do you do with them?"

I know a DJ or two who pre-record a 'mix', be it large or small, for a more 'slick' sounding performance on the 'night'.
It might be a 70's mix or ballad mix of only two to three songs - but the result (when used correctly or just at the right time) sounds very smooth.
And even one or two 'celeb' DJ's - including former group singers turned DJ - use pre-recorded mixes (even if they did it themselves!) for the night club set.

I agree that 'selling' copyright material is very naughty and bad etc., that's why I didn't want to go down a 'well travelled path' as talked about before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I used to have vinyl only (back in the dark days), I used to record remixes of songs...mainly they would be extended versions of 7 inch songs. I was finding that many of the popular songs were not lasting long enough on the dancefloors for the audiences needs, and the 12inch versions, in many cases, were too wildly different from the ordinary Radio edit 7inch to be of any use for a public who want it just like it is when they sing along to it in the car, bath, shower etc. (shame I only ever see them in their cars...)

I did however record a handful of "mic-free" cassettes for use one night at a notorious venue...a local Squash/Badminton club. Nice place, well done out bar area upstairs...on one of the most bounciest floors I've ever known. We tried everything to stop records from bouncing there....we tried:

*) Setting up ontop of the pool table...hoping the extra mass would help....Nope!

*) Fixing Shelf runners/brackets to the wall, so the decks werent on the floor....Nope! (plus whenever someone slammed a door downstairs when leaving one of the courts, the wall shook and bounced the record anyway. Nope!

*) Foam rubber under the decks. Nope!

*) Hanging the decks from the overhead rig using camping/bungee cords...Best solution...but still traumatic...

*) Hanging the decks from ceiling hooks ... nope! too fiddly.


Even the early CD-players of the time (no anti-shock) were skipping with the bouncy floor.

So...tapes it was...darn tricky to cue up, impossible to mix

Nowadays...easy...the majority of CD-decks have got between 10 and 40 seconds of Anti-shock.




As for mixes nowadays...I tend to just use the seamless loops and seamless splices on my cd-decks. Any song can become an "extended mix" even while its still playing, if the audience seem to be enjoying it...mind you, they start losing consciesness after 12 minutes of "Lets Twist Again...."

I had similar on one of the Thames pleasure boats, a whole boatfull of hooray Henry's who thought it was great fun to stamp on the floor and make the records jump, the more they drank the more they did it, till i lost it!

I announced over the mic that I had a whole case of 'crap' on tape or 'tunes' on vinyl but if that was what they wanted then the horseplay had to stop. I had been paid in advance so it was their problem.

They continued I rolled out the tape player with loads of MOR and cheese and sat back and enjoyed the cruise.

QUOTE

They continued I rolled out the tape player with loads of MOR and cheese and sat back and enjoyed the cruise.

Hee hee; nice one

Was till i came to unload ( I did'nt mention this Esk but now you remind me)

Attention all you Young DJ's!!

IF you get asked to do a Thames pleasure boat then great the money is (or was) brilliant!!

Load stuff on boat about 6pm loads of cheese / dance booze etc normally real fun nights

HOWEVER

Please be advised when you come to unload the tide WILL have gone out. If it is your idea of fun to carry your gear up a 18" gangplank at 45 degrees piece by piece, unless you have a couple of willing roadies you ae looking at an hour and a half to get it all back to your vehicle!!!!

Be Warned LOL

QUOTE

Please be advised when you come to unload the tide WILL have gone out. If it is your idea of fun to carry your gear up a 18" gangplank at 45 degrees piece by piece, unless you have a couple of willing roadies you ae looking at an hour and a half to get it all back to your vehicle!!!!

oh christ, I'd forgotten all about that
I used to quite a few of the boats on the Thames; it certainly kept you fit!

I agree about the use of tapes in the early days of CD.
Mini Disc is better sound quality now - but not perfect. It can 'freeze.'
Still, with the advent of PC Djing, pre list virtual record case's are a form of prep.