I was just thinking (painfull) that as far as I know we do not have a body or an association up here in the far reaches of East Anglia and if not why not, anybody up to start one up here in East Anglia???????? : 
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I was just thinking (painfull) that as far as I know we do not have a body or an association up here in the far reaches of East Anglia and if not why not, anybody up to start one up here in East Anglia???????? :
Hope this helps....
A new online DJ association is going to be launched very soon which will be free to join.
The association will have very good membership benefits and in particular - will be aimed exclusively at the DJU members.
More to follow as the launch date approaches.
DJU members in the Anglia / South East region may be interested in attending the forthcoming SEDA meeting (July 17th) where advice and questions can be sought on how to set-up a local DJ association.
It would also give an indication of how an established association works - and is very friendly.
Contact Brian Mole or John Kidd for further info via PM.
Regards
A new online DJ association is going to be launched very soon which will be free to join.
The association will have very good membership benefits and in particular - will be aimed exclusively at the DJU members.
More to follow as the launch date approaches.
DJU members in the Anglia / South East region may be interested in attending the forthcoming SEDA meeting (July 17th) where advice and questions can be sought on how to set-up a local DJ association.
It would also give an indication of how an established association works - and is very friendly.
Contact Brian Mole or John Kidd for further info via PM.
Regards
Yes I know about the fothcoming meeting,but it is down in Maidstone Kent a two & half houe drive if you are lucky,yes I know that we have national bits and bobs but as far as I am awear there is nothing that is up and running in East Anglia which could help to promote the better side of our profession
I've said before that you don't need to be an Association to get together with a bunch of like minded people and work together.
Q) Let's face it what is the main aim of joining an an association?
A) To better / increase your business and workload
The easiest way to do this is to join an Association, but if there is not one currently in your area then why not take the incentive and arrange a 'social' meeting with other DJ's in your area. This can be implemented with a view to sharing work, passing bookings to each other and generally covering for each other during illness / holidays and equipment breakdown.
You don't need to form an official association to become a local DJ Pool - a bit like CS runs in Norway
Experience has shown that there IS enough work to go around .
You've already taken the first step towards this, by posting here!.
Q) Let's face it what is the main aim of joining an an association?
A) To better / increase your business and workload
The easiest way to do this is to join an Association, but if there is not one currently in your area then why not take the incentive and arrange a 'social' meeting with other DJ's in your area. This can be implemented with a view to sharing work, passing bookings to each other and generally covering for each other during illness / holidays and equipment breakdown.
You don't need to form an official association to become a local DJ Pool - a bit like CS runs in Norway
Experience has shown that there IS enough work to go around
.You've already taken the first step towards this, by posting here!.
So is there anybody out there in goog old East Anglia up for s social gathering some where in the mdd of East Anglia WELL!!!!!!!!!
| QUOTE (blackvynil @ Jul 7 2005, 09:38 AM) |
| I was just thinking (painfull) that as far as I know we do not have a body or an association up here in the far reaches of East Anglia and if not why not, anybody up to start one up here in East Anglia???????? : |
We have a guy in Cambridge that may be interested in starting a Local Branch down your way.
You would only need another three guys to be recognised and supported as a "Branch in Formation"
Send me a PM with details of your location and i will see what i can do
Thats is the kind of thing that puts me off
'Branch in formation'
'Committee'
'Association'
Why can't three of four guys join together, give work to each other (HINT:Jim
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and not be part of a corporation or bigger body.
'Branch in formation'
'Committee'
'Association'
Why can't three of four guys join together, give work to each other (HINT:Jim
)and not be part of a corporation or bigger body.
Eh up me old mate, fancy a pie and pint down'th pub i've got some gigs for you, if you buy me a jar I may pass them to you!.
Is that more of the way of doing business that you are used to Andy?
Is that more of the way of doing business that you are used to Andy?
or it it moore like this where lives , ip dip dog sh*t tis your gig ( only joking Andy) 
I'm in and around the east anglia area...... though often accused of belonging to the Midlands. 
I'd love to make Maidstone, now i can actually comply with SEDA requirements.... but it is always so so far on a sunday eve.
Meeting up in east anglia.... I'd be game.
I'd love to make Maidstone, now i can actually comply with SEDA requirements.... but it is always so so far on a sunday eve.
Meeting up in east anglia.... I'd be game.
Its all ..
What the point in paying an annual subrscription? For what? A news letter?
..What the point in paying an annual subrscription? For what? A news letter?
| QUOTE (stevemitchell @ Jul 7 2005, 09:31 PM) |
| Its all .. What the point in paying an annual subrscription? For what? A news letter? |
It sounds like you need to go to a meeting sometime, anyones.
I can see from your responce that you have never been to a SEDA or NADJ meeting!
The whole point of belonging to an association is to belong to a group of like-minded DJs that want to both improve their businesses and socialise.
How that takes shape and develops is up to you.
The idea of a "Branch" is to help get you started, point you in the right direction and let you develop your meetings in what ever style you wish.
You will receive financial support and benefits as part of the package.
These are being reviewed and finalised, literally as I type this note.
Members that attended our last meeting could take advantage of exclusive discounts on gear from PC DJ and CD Pool, to name but two.
Unity and strength come from the National association.
Identity and success come from local involvement.
Do your own thing by all means, but why reinvent the wheel?
How that takes shape and develops is up to you.
The idea of a "Branch" is to help get you started, point you in the right direction and let you develop your meetings in what ever style you wish.
You will receive financial support and benefits as part of the package.
These are being reviewed and finalised, literally as I type this note.
Members that attended our last meeting could take advantage of exclusive discounts on gear from PC DJ and CD Pool, to name but two.
Unity and strength come from the National association.
Identity and success come from local involvement.
Do your own thing by all means, but why reinvent the wheel?
| QUOTE (Derekpen @ Jul 7 2005, 05:18 PM) | ||
We have a guy in Cambridge that may be interested in starting a Local Branch down your way. You would only need another three guys to be recognised and supported as a "Branch in Formation" Send me a PM with details of your location and i will see what i can do |
From the moment I heard about this overall good idea, I couldn't help thinking what a huge benefit (and opportunity) it would be if one of the members in the "group in formation" group was the owner of a local disco shop, in each area.
The group/branch would have somewhere to meet, perfectly situated and equiped for practical demos of gear and a reasonable space for a dozen or so members to meet monthly etc.
A shop would also be geared up to handle cash and give receipts for membership etc.
The shop would benefit from a certain amount of potential local customer loyalty etc. eg: those who attend their branch meetings there on the "last wednesday of every month" will hopefully think of that shop when they need to buy their new bits'n'pieces.
Now theres a thought...
| QUOTE (John Kidd @ Jul 8 2005, 08:59 AM) |
| It sounds like you need to go to a meeting sometime, anyones. I can see from your responce that you have never been to a SEDA or NADJ meeting! |
No never been to one ..
If you have one during the summer Jon I would like to come. Keep me informed. Cheers Jonny.
I used to think associations were 
, being honest.
Actually, it was Mikeee that edumecated about the benefits of his Association (TVDJA), and John Kidd has echoed similar thoughts (South East Discotheque Association)
(Thanks to the forum, I've met many DJs and hope to meet more - associations might help here)
Every much an approachable and 'hands-on type of guy' in the thick of 24/7 DJ orientated criteria......thinking that paying subscriptions for self promotional member ramblings in photo-copied folded paper every other month is the association newsletter tool - yes, is a school of thought but like 'schools', where one goes to be educated and 'on form', the 21st century association should be far removed and should move forward with the times. That's why forums can have the edge.
If I want to know the latest DJ news and product reviews - sure, I could buy a dedicated DJ magazine, however, it is true that the content of articles to that of adverts must be 40% / 60% or maybe worse!
Mind you - then there is the association meeting.....
If I was looking for advice, support or anything DJ related such as on a product - yep, I can physically go and meet someone from the industry and address that question or point in person directly.
The association (such as SEDA or NADJ) has in the past (and still does today) encourage those in industry to come and meet DJs and address their concerns, answer direct questions and amend what needs amending on say a product - because in industry, these are a serious bunch of DJs (in numbers) and have voiced their opinion, so they can either listen, answer as best or ignore if they dare!
If I need a discount on buying in bulk such as bulbs or leads - I can either physically see someone at an association meeting and check the quality of goods myself before I buy, or order from a reliable source via the forum. Isn't that great for DJs?!
Where an association is based too far from someone's locality, online associations are starting to appear and equally offer benefits to get people onto the ladder of promotion.
If I'm looking for advice on how to improve my rig, health and safety questions or topics of interest such as the 'mp3 debate' - sure, I can go to an association meeting and get the advice from like-minded people who share the same interest and concerns. I can also give my advice and share my knowledge and experience with fellow / junior members too. To some extent, I can converse online with fellow jocks from around the UK and beyond to share advice. Great.
In numbers, sure, association members can gain discounts on a range of things such as insurance. Maybe if local associations affiliated with the NADJ - then the "National Association" should be able to provide a good benefit for all members and others if they choose to work with which appears to be a small problem in some areas but probably just teething trouble.
When I'm looking for work or have work to pass on - both the associations and the forum can help.
Because there is an interest in associations and 'DJ Pools' - I'm quite behind the idea that working together to improve the public perception of DJing (education within) whilst improving the individuals own marketing skills and professional business practice is sooo important for our profession. I am equally behind the existing associations to work together for the betterment of DJing which I must admit, John Kidd is slowly and surely achieving and Mikeee has apparently sold his soul for to achieve.
The DJU MAX was successful in Chippenham in February this year but the DJU (do not forget) is not a DJ association. It is a forum community for DJs where members have also addressed many different subjects and will continue to hopefully bring DJs closer together.
In the areas where no association 'exists' or is too far to travel to, Local DJs can still work together by adopting tried and tested practice. By asking an established association or the forum for advice on how to get things moving - literally just pick up the phone and start talking to one another - it's as easy as that.
, being honest. Actually, it was Mikeee that edumecated about the benefits of his Association (TVDJA), and John Kidd has echoed similar thoughts (South East Discotheque Association)
(Thanks to the forum, I've met many DJs and hope to meet more - associations might help here)
Every much an approachable and 'hands-on type of guy' in the thick of 24/7 DJ orientated criteria......thinking that paying subscriptions for self promotional member ramblings in photo-copied folded paper every other month is the association newsletter tool - yes, is a school of thought but like 'schools', where one goes to be educated and 'on form', the 21st century association should be far removed and should move forward with the times. That's why forums can have the edge.
If I want to know the latest DJ news and product reviews - sure, I could buy a dedicated DJ magazine, however, it is true that the content of articles to that of adverts must be 40% / 60% or maybe worse!
Mind you - then there is the association meeting.....
If I was looking for advice, support or anything DJ related such as on a product - yep, I can physically go and meet someone from the industry and address that question or point in person directly.
The association (such as SEDA or NADJ) has in the past (and still does today) encourage those in industry to come and meet DJs and address their concerns, answer direct questions and amend what needs amending on say a product - because in industry, these are a serious bunch of DJs (in numbers) and have voiced their opinion, so they can either listen, answer as best or ignore if they dare!
If I need a discount on buying in bulk such as bulbs or leads - I can either physically see someone at an association meeting and check the quality of goods myself before I buy, or order from a reliable source via the forum. Isn't that great for DJs?!
Where an association is based too far from someone's locality, online associations are starting to appear and equally offer benefits to get people onto the ladder of promotion.
If I'm looking for advice on how to improve my rig, health and safety questions or topics of interest such as the 'mp3 debate' - sure, I can go to an association meeting and get the advice from like-minded people who share the same interest and concerns. I can also give my advice and share my knowledge and experience with fellow / junior members too. To some extent, I can converse online with fellow jocks from around the UK and beyond to share advice. Great.
In numbers, sure, association members can gain discounts on a range of things such as insurance. Maybe if local associations affiliated with the NADJ - then the "National Association" should be able to provide a good benefit for all members and others if they choose to work with which appears to be a small problem in some areas but probably just teething trouble.
When I'm looking for work or have work to pass on - both the associations and the forum can help.
Because there is an interest in associations and 'DJ Pools' - I'm quite behind the idea that working together to improve the public perception of DJing (education within) whilst improving the individuals own marketing skills and professional business practice is sooo important for our profession. I am equally behind the existing associations to work together for the betterment of DJing which I must admit, John Kidd is slowly and surely achieving and Mikeee has apparently sold his soul for to achieve.
The DJU MAX was successful in Chippenham in February this year but the DJU (do not forget) is not a DJ association. It is a forum community for DJs where members have also addressed many different subjects and will continue to hopefully bring DJs closer together.
In the areas where no association 'exists' or is too far to travel to, Local DJs can still work together by adopting tried and tested practice. By asking an established association or the forum for advice on how to get things moving - literally just pick up the phone and start talking to one another - it's as easy as that.
So come on you DJ's from the East Anglia region Let's Be Having You, :-pm, ring, email me let try and put something together and work together Mo
| QUOTE (Gary @ Jul 8 2005, 11:09 AM) | ||||
From the moment I heard about this overall good idea, I couldn't help thinking what a huge benefit (and opportunity) it would be if one of the members in the "group in formation" group was the owner of a local disco shop, in each area. The group/branch would have somewhere to meet, perfectly situated and equiped for practical demos of gear and a reasonable space for a dozen or so members to meet monthly etc. A shop would also be geared up to handle cash and give receipts for membership etc. The shop would benefit from a certain amount of potential local customer loyalty etc. eg: those who attend their branch meetings there on the "last wednesday of every month" will hopefully think of that shop when they need to buy their new bits'n'pieces. Now theres a thought... |
This is something like what used to happen in the old TVDJA meetings.
Dave Seamer used to support the group at their meetings in Sonning, and offer discounts and special deals to members.
He now has regular "Open Days", usually on a Sunday at his shop in Oxford.
He and Ade North,[NADJ] are trying a more informal and casual approach to DJ meetings.
The next such event held in association with Disco Action is on Sunday July 24th.
Details can be found on both NADJ and Disco Action web sites.
Supporting retailers are a vital part of a local DJA and feature in our grand plan to form local DJAs all over the country.
I guess a mix of these casual meetings and the more formal structured events would be an ideal compromise.
Yesterday myself and Ian Stewart joined the FSB (Federation of Small Businesses). They have an unbelievable amount of great benefits and I just wish I'd known about them earlier. They would be of great use to any self employed person or small business.
It would seem to me to be a good idea for some of the DJ associations to band together with the FSB and have a DJ division, there would certainly be less potential conflict than in trying to have a DJ division of the Musicians Union.
Even though I joined the MU, mainly for the £10 mill PLI, they don't seem overly keen on really getting behind DJs & issues concerning DJs. I can sort of understand why, as I can imagine many of their musician members would be far from happy at the MU fighting some of the issues important to us. Whereas the FSB would have no such divided loyalties.
Here are just a few of the hundreds of benefits from joining the FSB:
Free legal advisory service: legal & employment law is available 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
Legal & Professional Expenses Insurance: (covering all the following) Employment disputes. Tax protection-inc representation at meetings, hearings, tribunals or examinations relating to in depth tax investigations, PAYE & DSS investigations, VAT Decisions & Penalties. Criminal Prosecution defences. Safety Prosecution Defences. Jury Service. Property Disputes. Data Protection. Personal Injury. Statutory Licence. PLI cover.
Specialist Advice: specialist advice on Tax, VAT, PAYE, DSS, Safety & Environment available from 9am to 5pm mon to fri.
Discounts on Medical care plans, dental plans, hospital sickness & injury plans, critical illness plans, medical travel plans, term life plans, personal accident plans, the breakdown recovery club.
Reduced rates on Interlink Express couriers.
Free business banking with The Co-op.
Reductions in accepting credit card payments. Mobile card terminals.
Finance for business.
Help with Website design/Web hosting/Internet access.
Telecom services.
Invoice chasing.
Other reductions on insurance services such as home, motor etc both business & private.
These are just a few of the many benefits you gain from being a member. Without meaning to knock any of the associations, if they were able to offer more tangible benfits they would find it far easier to recruit new members.
Have either the NDJA or SEDA ever thought of contacting the FSB with regards to having some sort of association etc?
It would seem to me to be a good idea for some of the DJ associations to band together with the FSB and have a DJ division, there would certainly be less potential conflict than in trying to have a DJ division of the Musicians Union.
Even though I joined the MU, mainly for the £10 mill PLI, they don't seem overly keen on really getting behind DJs & issues concerning DJs. I can sort of understand why, as I can imagine many of their musician members would be far from happy at the MU fighting some of the issues important to us. Whereas the FSB would have no such divided loyalties.
Here are just a few of the hundreds of benefits from joining the FSB:
Free legal advisory service: legal & employment law is available 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
Legal & Professional Expenses Insurance: (covering all the following) Employment disputes. Tax protection-inc representation at meetings, hearings, tribunals or examinations relating to in depth tax investigations, PAYE & DSS investigations, VAT Decisions & Penalties. Criminal Prosecution defences. Safety Prosecution Defences. Jury Service. Property Disputes. Data Protection. Personal Injury. Statutory Licence. PLI cover.
Specialist Advice: specialist advice on Tax, VAT, PAYE, DSS, Safety & Environment available from 9am to 5pm mon to fri.
Discounts on Medical care plans, dental plans, hospital sickness & injury plans, critical illness plans, medical travel plans, term life plans, personal accident plans, the breakdown recovery club.
Reduced rates on Interlink Express couriers.
Free business banking with The Co-op.
Reductions in accepting credit card payments. Mobile card terminals.
Finance for business.
Help with Website design/Web hosting/Internet access.
Telecom services.
Invoice chasing.
Other reductions on insurance services such as home, motor etc both business & private.
These are just a few of the many benefits you gain from being a member. Without meaning to knock any of the associations, if they were able to offer more tangible benfits they would find it far easier to recruit new members.
Have either the NDJA or SEDA ever thought of contacting the FSB with regards to having some sort of association etc?
| QUOTE (stevemitchell @ Jul 8 2005, 10:13 AM) |
| No never been to one .. If you have one during the summer Jon I would like to come. Keep me informed. Cheers Jonny. |
Hi steve, Yes we have meetings across the summer, 17th July, and the 18th September and a Bowling Night somewhere in the Middle.
All DJU members are welcome at our meetings. If Maidstone is along way to travel for some of you, then i am sure that the NADJ will be having some local Branch Meetings soon as well.
It strikes me that alot of people, comment that they cant see the point of associations, long before ever going along and seeing them. The associations of yester year have changed, modenised, reformed.
But has the DJ?
| QUOTE (John Kidd @ Jul 10 2005, 03:01 PM) |
| It strikes me that alot of people, comment that they cant see the point of associations, long before ever going along and seeing them. The associations of yester year have changed, modenised, reformed. But has the DJ? |
John, my comments on DJ associations above were not meant in a negative vein; indeed it was very constructive and offered some suggestions. I note that you make no reference to it whatsoever. I'm wondering whether that means you've totally dismissed the suggestions as worthless? they do not interest you? you have tried something similar to what I've mentioned? or you just didn't really read it?
Tone, under the old TVDJA, we did have the FSB down to a meeting. Two things happened, 1) They weren't interested in the association as such, more the individual members. 2) The guys that were there, I think one signed up.
I still have all the paperwork here
I still have all the paperwork here
| QUOTE (Eskie @ Jul 10 2005, 02:36 PM) | ||
John, my comments on DJ associations above were not meant in a negative vein; indeed it was very constructive and offered some suggestions. I note that you make no reference to it whatsoever. I'm wondering whether that means you've totally dismissed the suggestions as worthless? they do not interest you? you have tried something similar to what I've mentioned? or you just didn't really read it? |
Hi Eskie,
Yes i have contacted the FSB, about Seda and DJ connections and conversations continue, I am personally a Member of the BNI (Business Network Initiative) as with the FSB i have found this to be very useful.
To answer your other questions, when i placed that reply i was just answering the comments by Steve, just is i was flying out on the road. Due to this i didn't read the other points fully until not. I didn't wish to cause any offence and i am sorry if I seemed rule, this is not my intension.
Just because i hold the candle for SEDA, doesn't mean that i have stopped considering everything else, i personally believe that there are many way that we can all improve and assist our businesses, the FSB and BNI are Great, but Different from Forums and Associations. They Look at Business in general and improving the relationships there in. Associations try to support the DJ directly, weither through Meetings, suggestions, products, communication, training, demonstrations. Then there are these Forums, the best ones, support there members, with the biggest pot on knowlegde, advise, and support, as well as interest, and discussions.
Each of these has a place in the life of a DJ, Then i go back to One bit of Rope Again!
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