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brianmole
Check out this one then...pdf list
Corabar Steve
I'd do it!!

Sounds like fun.

Did two last year that only wanted Disco & Heavy Metal, wierd combination but it worked (full floor all night both nights)

They were both for aquaintances of mine (living in the same area), although given the playlists similarities didn't know each other

I'd like more gigs like these & Brian's
C.S
Should keep you busy Brian biggrin.gif
YourBigEvent
No wonder you want a roadie.......
jackcu
Looks like fun - Perfect Day is a good one for the first dance.

Did they choose from a list you gave them or is this all their own work?

Cheers,

Jack.
brianmole
It is all their own work.
partychris
So glad thats your play list and not mine !!! wacko.gif
so much for dropping all those big Miami tunes !!! wallbash.gif
see if you can mix Mr Flugel into any of those, should wake them up a bit !! 071.gif
Kingy
Haven't we covered all the ground that can be covered with playlists?

This one looks to me like a nightmare. I dislike functions where I am told "Must play" and would feel uncomfortable in putting my name to this show. The guests will not neccesarily know that you have not selected the music.

Time and time again people see me do a wedding or whatever, say "what a great night, can we book you for our party" and then send lists through which totally change the show you did when they saw you in the first place.

I have every track that they want playing, just dont feel they are appropriate for a wedding party. Ask their grandparents, aunts and uncles if they like the music.

Fair play, it's their day. I have 5x A4 sheets for this Saturday night myself, some common tunes, but a whole sheet of Indie/rock tunes which I am sure will get very little or no dancefloor reaction. Many of the tracks are album tracks that will be supplied by the B&G. (Probably on a copied disc!!!)

I wonder if a B&G would book a band and then tell them what to sing?

I dont mind half a dozen or so requests, but lists??? No!!

OK Rant over, sorry folks, Its just that I,for one,have had it with lists!

I am expecting a "Winge" comment again, but its how I bl**dy feel. Sorry!
Gary
Theres 140 minutes of "Must haves" there (2 hrs, 20mins)

And 104 minutes of "Would likes" (1 hr, 44mins)

So, thats 4 hours of the night gone.

My primary concern would be that theres only about a dozen songs on there that I'd expect to have any dancefloor appeal - and only a few more besides with top-tapping appeal.

Best of luck!
st1ngo
phew thats gotta be one of the worst lists i have ever seen !
good luck !
centrestagediscos
good luck, glad im not doing that one.
DJ SPARKO
actually their is some gudens on their but i would definatly play these sparingly as virtually the lot doest really go together
Corabar Steve
QUOTE (Kingy @ May 25 2005, 09:42 AM)

Fair play, it's their day. I have 5x A4 sheets for this Saturday night myself, some common tunes, but a whole sheet of Indie/rock tunes which I am sure will get very little or no dancefloor reaction.

I dont mind half a dozen or so requests, but lists??? No!!


We send out a request sheet (A4) we have gotten up to 3 back! Long playlists can truly stuff a gig, but they also could make a gig.

The page of rock/indie would get a god response from 99% of my (& my girlfriend's) friends, therefore any gig I booked for myself would involve a slant in that direction. Luckily one of our other DJs is one of said mates & would get the gig, heaven forbid I should hire a DJ & have the temerity to ask him/her to play music not to their taste.

Seems like a lot of you want to be solely club DJs playing music you like. NEWSFLASH, so would we all. If you're doing weddings then you're a mobile DJ & as such have to cater to the tastes of your clients & their guests. At the end of the day these are the people who pay our wages.

Why judge a gig as a failure until it is underway, you can't gauge audience reaction until you see your audience.

Re the grandparents aunts uncles etc, just curious (& not having a dig in any way), do you find out in advance what the age range is going to be at your bookings? We do for all our gigs & it comes in very handy sometimes.

Whilst on the subject of the older generation you'll probably find a lot more of them like indie than you think, listened to Radio 2 lately? & think about late 60's early 70's music. I know my mum (65 this year) would prefer a night of rock & indie than R&B (as opposed to R'n'B, she likes the Stones & the Who too).

That's my rant over

Thanks for listening (figuratively) 1106.gif

P.S. Can you give some examples from the list that you think won't work?
Award Entertainment
Wow! I think you might be in for an education there. Sometimes I get some ideas from odd requests that see some previously unplayed tracks go onto my 'high-rotate' list for a while. It sure helps keep me humble when I see a list like that and I don't know a good handful of tracks at all.
C.S
I didnt honestly think it was that bad.
Corabar Steve
QUOTE (Kingy @ May 25 2005, 09:42 AM)
I wonder if a B&G would book a band and then tell them what to sing?


Sorry missed this on my first rant.

I doubt they would but I would think they'd book a band that at least played a style of music they liked. Bands do have to learn the songs & people apppreciate this (although probably not enough as they wouldn't think about hours of rehersals, same as they don't think about how much more there is to running a mobile disco than what they actually see).

We have it easy, pushing buttons is a lot easier than remembering lyrics chords etc...

Before anyone starts on that comment, I know you have to think about what's going to go next (playlists can help here) & the skill involved in mixing etc..
Dukesy
Yep - and whilst mentioning bands - without the likes of which, we would be nothing! biggrin.gif
Corabar Steve
QUOTE (discodirect @ May 26 2005, 07:04 AM)
Yep - and whilst mentioning bands - without the likes of which, we would be nothing! biggrin.gif

There's always acapella solo acts biggrin.gif
Dukesy
Ditto the above too! rolleyes.gif smile.gif
Kingy
Ok Steve, I accept your points.

In regard to an average wedding reception ( note i say AVERAGE) there will usually be a mix of people from all sorts of backgrounds, all ages and all attitudes. Each one of those people at that function are potentially a customer for you to attract.

Now whilst I acknowledge that the B&G at the party are your current client and deserve 110% from you, surely you would want everyone to be impressed by the performance you give at this function.

My take on these lists, which are occuring more and more, is that we are being told exactly how to do our jobs.

Whilst I fully acknowledge that we are there to play reasonable requests should they be appropriate, too many B&Gs are trying to adopt the attitude of "Its my party, you will play what I WANT". To me this shows a disrespect of their guests.

At many functions the B&G are too busy socialising to dance all night anyhow.

Imagine that Aunty Flo is looking for a mobile DJ to perform at her forthcoming Silver Wedding party and thinks " I won't book one today, I'm going to Sandra's wedding on Saturday, I will see who she uses".

During that night, you play the stuff that is on Brian's ( or the one I have) which is , you have to admit, not run of the mill party music. (2x Primal Scream, 4x Stone Roses, 3x Underworld etc) Your Name is blazen across the front of the show. Aunty Flo looks and thinks " I cant imagine my friends dancing to this....etc" do you really think you are going to get the future booking?

Nor me.

Dont get me wrong, I have virtually all the tunes listed on there, with the exception of the Underworld stuff, but I dont think that the majority of venues I perform at would want these tracks. Pubs,Yes, 5 star hotels and Golf Clubs, No!

As for your comments about some only wanting to perform in nightclubs, I strongly disagree, having done the nightclub circuit for well over fifteen years I can safely say that Mobiles are where I want to be. Of course we find out what the age ranges are likely to be BEFORE the function, doesn't every body??

What I was trying to put over to all was that why, oh why, when someone has seen you work and been pleased with that, do they subsequently book you and then insist on you playing a completely different set to the one they have seen and been pleased with??

Perhaps they are booking some of us just because it sounded good and the flashing lights were pretty........Lovely. I'll take that night off please.

I am sure that we all take requests, but 5xA4 sheets................please!
jackcu
QUOTE (Kingy @ May 26 2005, 08:47 AM)
too many B&Gs are trying to adopt the attitude of "Its my party, you will play what I WANT". To me this shows a disrespect of their guests.

I agree with large parts of what Kingy says, but perhaps not the above comment. It's the biggest day of their lives to date. It's costing them and their families a fortune. Why would they NOT take the "it's my party" approach?

When I had my 18th party and my 40th party, that's EXACTLY what I wanted. It was MY party and I wanted music that I liked. OK, so I'm savvy enough to know that asking the DJ to play prog rock all night wouldn't have kept anyone happy but me, so I didn't. However, I had a long chat with him to make sure he had a good spread of songs I loved - I also made the assumption that if I liked them then so would everybody else. They were MY friends - I KNEW most of them had similar tastes in music.

Having said that I will now proceed to contradict myself LOL. I think weddings are, however, different. At my own wedding I booked a ceileidh band that I'd seen at a friend's wedding. Scottish dancing all night and I couldn't have cared less what tunes they played, as long as they covered all the major dances. Maybe it's a little different up here - I can't remember the last time I was at a wedding with a disco - I've maybe been to 2 or 3 out of the countless weddings I've been to. When I play at weddings (and I've only done a handful) I treat it a bit like the ceileidh band - I figure I'll need to play something for everyone - the kids, the grannies, the B&G, their friends, their parents. What this means, of course, is that while you are pleasing one section of the crowd you are probably not pleasing all of the other sections - but I figure wedding guests understand this. That's why lists don't upset me too much. While the obscure, grungy album track is being played, the guests are thinking, "there's that weird music Bob and Sandra are always listening to."

I'm fine with lists - at least when I play something from the client's list I know I am pleasing SOMEONE in the room. Many times when the floor is empty I wonder if ANYONE is enjoying what I'm playing LOL.

Cheers,

Jack.
Corabar Steve
QUOTE (Kingy @ May 26 2005, 08:47 AM)
Of course we find out what the age ranges are likely to be BEFORE the function, doesn't every body??

You'd be surprised.


I agree with you about the length of lists these days, it's begining to get silly. I think most people who book a mobile tend to want their favourite music, therefore the it's my party attitude will always prevail.

As for seeing you in action then changing your set to suit themselves.... Our tagline on our advertising etc is "your choice of music for any function" so we can't complain if they take us up on it.

QUOTE (Kingy)
What I was trying to put over to all was that why, oh why, when someone has seen you work and been pleased with that, do they subsequently book you and then insist on you playing a completely different set to the one they have seen and been pleased with??

This person has obviously booked you because you're a good DJ. Surely one of the signs of a good DJ is flexibility? Of course you'll also be taking requests on the night, giving you scope to play for the other sections of your audience.

QUOTE (Jackcu)
When I had my 18th party and my 40th party, that's EXACTLY what I wanted. It was MY party and I wanted music that I liked. OK, so I'm savvy enough to know that asking the DJ to play prog rock all night wouldn't have kept anyone happy but me, so I didn't. However, I had a long chat with him to make sure he had a good spread of songs I loved - I also made the assumption that if I liked them then so would everybody else. They were MY friends - I KNEW most of them had similar tastes in music.

Same thing happened when I did my mate's 40th I could've played Hanoi Rocks all night & only he & I would've been happy. As it was we playlisted the whole nightwith his taste in music, he compiled a list of tracks he liked from those on our database & I then whittled it down to four hours & goruped the tracks into sections that went well together. A good time was had by all in attendance (mostly his friends with similar tase in music)

QUOTE (Kingy)
My take on these lists, which are occuring more and more, is that we are being told exactly how to do our jobs.

I wouldn't say that, but they are telling us what they want. No dispute tho 5x A4 is excessive
brianmole
NEWSFLASH #2! Ok, did the gig and I can safely say it was one of the best gigs this year. I had all the tunes except one, BPM'd all the tracks and listed them in order. Then I went to work, making sure I didn't vary the tempo too much for the night.

I was not familiar with some of them, but it was really interesting to hear some new-to-me music. I started at 10:30pm, finished at 12:30, the floor was packed all night except for when I played The Beloved- Outerspace girl, the floor half cleared. Obviously, I didn't manage to play all the tunes on the list, but covered all genres. There were no requests from anyone during the night, I added a couple of tracks of my choice to the set.

When I prepared for this gig, I had comprehensive contact with my customer. He made me aware that this list was compiled with the help of many friends who love this kind of music who would also be there, so I was confident that this would be an easy night despite your perceptions that it could be a nightmare because of the lack of cheese on the list. What surprised me was how many guests came up to me at the end saying how much they enjoyed the night, and how pleased they were not subjected to a 'stereotypical mobile DJ' omg.gif

Incidentally, I realise this is a niche market, but it does pay very well (£350 for 2 hrs on a Sunday) cool.gif Maybe I should not share my trade secrets hmmm..... We can all do cheese very easily, don't you get bored just doing that though?

The morale of the story is open your minds I think.
cj_65
Yep - several times recently I received requests that I just could
not believe - didnt want to play - put them on and found I was
wrong and they went really well.

Dont do weddings though,


jackcu
I'm glad it went well Brian - my personal opinion is that people who have thought through what music they want are going to enjoy themselves more when they hear it. As I've said before, it's the ones who say "oh, just play whatever you like" who usually complain because what they had in mind was not what I had in mind.

I know none of us wants to be a "human jukebox" but a decent list doesn't mean that. A list of suggestions (even if they are expressed as "must plays") lets us get a really good feel for what the client wants, and I have to say I prefer that, even though others differ.

Cheers,

Jack.
brianmole
QUOTE
people who have thought through what music they want are going to enjoy themselves


Exactly....

QUOTE
I know none of us wants to be a "human jukebox"


If my customer wants me to be a human jukebox, I will oblige without any problems. It is their party, they pay me to do what we both agree whether I like it or not.


QUOTE
A list of suggestions (even if they are expressed as "must plays") lets us get a really good feel for what the client wants
Absolutely, I also talk to my customer, so I am well prepared.
Corabar Steve
QUOTE (brianmole @ May 31 2005, 11:57 AM)
What surprised me was how many guests came up to me at the end saying how much they enjoyed the night, and how pleased they were not subjected to a 'stereotypical mobile DJ'  omg.gif

Incidentally, I realise this is a niche market, but it does pay very well (£350 for 2 hrs on a Sunday) cool.gif  Maybe I should not share my trade secrets hmmm.....  We can all do cheese very easily, don't you get bored just doing that though?

The morale of the story is open your minds I think.

Didn't say anything before, but my Saturday gig had a similar playlist & it went down a storm.

I'm thinking the indie kids of a few years back are growing up & getting married, bad news for those of you who slagged off the contents of the list eh?

Sunday's gig also contained quite a bit of it as well & again went well
jackcu
QUOTE (Corabar Steve @ Jun 1 2005, 07:41 AM)
I'm thinking the indie kids of a few years back are growing up & getting married

True - but something else seems to be happening. At Friday's school gig I was getting requests for Nirvana - the under 12's must be raiding their parents' CD collections :)
Corabar Steve
QUOTE (jackcu @ Jun 1 2005, 08:39 AM)
but something else seems to be happening. At Friday's school gig I was getting requests for Nirvana - the under 12's must be raiding their parents' CD collections :)

Good music (of whatever genre) will always be remembered over throwaway pop idol tosh.

I did the same with my parents collections, came in very handy too when I started DJing
Jason v G
I personally have no problems with punters offering track lists, I allways tell them I'll take it as a recommended list, but reserve the right to change bits if the majority of guests don't seem to appreciate the music.

The two things that do get me annoyed are:

the DO NOT PLAY list - usually stuff that's guarenteed to fill the floor.

the PLAY IT NOW!!! I'm the Bride request, usually things like Perfect Gentleman - Wycleff, for her and 3 mates, who are going clubbing in a minute anyway, and wipes the 50 odd people of the floor who are enjoying the 60's-70's bit.

ranting.gif


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