huracain
May 22 2005, 07:55 PM
hello all i have been doing karaoke for a wile my equipment is a kam 960 and kam gmx 2 mixer with a cdg converter , .u use a simple echo chamber i forget the name but its simply connected to the in on the mixer then out of the echo chamber into the amp .now my question is this .i was told that the behringer mixer eurorack mx1804x was a good peice of kit .so i got one of ebay . how do i connect this to my mixer i basicly want the behringer for mikes .vocals ect .also any info on using this equipment for karaoke would be great thank u as i havent a clue :)
gunslinger757
May 22 2005, 09:12 PM
i use a ub euro rack mixer for my disco karaoke, i run the whole shebang through it great piece of kit., what do you want to know?
huracain
May 22 2005, 10:08 PM
basicly everything .i see buttons after buttons .i supose u will onlu use a few of them to get the desired effect .but witch ones .and what leads and how do i connect t to my kam setup and amp .
Gary
May 23 2005, 08:33 AM
Yes, there'll be a bit of press'n'play to get the best out of it, but heres a quick run-down of adding basic reverb to any or all of the 6 mic channels on the MX1804...
Firstly you can throw away your existing reverb unit - the MX1804 has an excellent reverb effects system built-in. This effects system can be found directly above the graphic equaliser of the unit. Use the UP/DOWN buttons to select the number of the program you want, from the numbered list to the right of the effects controls. The effect number on the LED display will increase/decrease as you push the button - eg: 06 for "Medium Hall", or 01 for "Cathederal" (for the really bad singers). Then, press "ENTER" near the Up/Down controls, to tell the effects unit you really want that Effect Number. The mixer refers to this built-in effect system as "FX".
Each channel (1-6) can be sent to the in-built effects unit. Directly under each channels EQ controls, there is a rotary knob, marked "FX". This sets how much of that channels signal is passed to the in-built FX unit. The more echo the singer on that mic needs, the more clockwise you turn the knob. Notice also, that the label next to the FX send knob says "POST". This is short for "Post Fader" and means that mic signals are only sent to the FX unit WHEN the channel fader is full or partially UP. No channel signal is sent to the FX unit when the channel fader is fully down.
If you dont hear any echo/fx, then check the rotary fader (FX Send), and linear fader (labeled FX Return). These controls are found directly under the mixers equaliser and can be used to instantly switch the echo/fx off of all microphones simultaneously - a great way to avoid the audience hearing echo/reverb when the "singers" are just talking.
Have fun.
huracain
May 23 2005, 11:06 AM
thank u mate . can u tell me how would i connect it to my system .and what leads i would need .looking at the back of the behringer its just so confusing .
Gary
May 23 2005, 11:35 AM
In basic terms just the MAIN OUT sockets on the mixer, will need to go to your amplifiers (or equalisers/Crossovers/limiters or any other "outbound" gear that you have in-between your mixer and your amps)
The above answer was the basic answer.
Here's something a little more advanced, based on a thread posted a few months back about feedback on monitor speakers, near the mics.
If you have one set of speakers pointing out to the audience, and another set of speakers (on a different amp) near the microphones, acting as monitor speakers for the singers, you obviously want the audience to be able to hear the combined output of the singer(s) and the music - just like a normal track.
However, it can sometimes be desirable to have less of the microphone signal(s) and more of the music/backing track signal, audible through the monitor speakers. eg: To reduce feedback and to benefit the singers timing etc.
This can be acheived by connecting a 2nd amp to the mixers AUX SEND output, and adjusting each channels AUX OUT rotary control accordingly - eg: Set the AUX OUT on each mic channel to only half of what you set the AUX OUT on the music channels - this way - the monitor speakers will emit less mic than music, but the audience speakers will have both mic and music at equal volumes.
huracain
Jun 1 2005, 05:20 PM
THANK U FOR YOUR REPLY .SORRY HAVENT GOT BACK TO U QUICKER BUT I AM AWAY LOOKING AFTER MY MAM SO NOT HAVE BROADBAND .THANK U AGAGIN FOR THE INFO BUT SADLY I AM HAVING A PROBLEM WITH CONNECTED MY CAM TWIN DECKS TO THE BEHRINGER .I CONNECT IT TO THE MANY INPUTS ON THE MIXER LEFT TO LEFT RIGHT TO RIGHT BUT SADLY I AM NOT GETTING STERIO FROM THEM I AM ONLY GETTING A LEFT CHANEL .PLEASE WHAT AM I DOING WRONG .THANK U FOR ANY HELP
YourBigEvent
Jun 1 2005, 08:08 PM
Which Behringer have you got, the last two channels are normally stereo, so you need to connect your CD players to those channels

I have a 24 channel mixer here with 4 stereo inputs, the 4 on the right hand side, with the right angled connectors already in, these are connected to Tuner/MD/CD1/CD2 you will need to get two phono to jack leads (mono) to connect your CD players. As these are stereo inputs you should then use the PAN knob, near the bottom of the group of knobs directly under the input and put that at 12 o clock.
Then if you look on the rear of the unit it will say Master Mix Out and you will need 2 XLR leads to plug from here into your amp or crossover.
Hope this help, if not please ask again
Andy
huracain
Jun 2 2005, 05:09 PM
hello mate .thank u for your reply my mixer is the behringer mixer eurorack mx1804x .as far as i can see ther is 4 stereo inputs were ther is a left and a right six ml phono lead sockets ( like on a mike ) but i noticed the sound was in mono so i took one of the leads out the right one i think and no difference the only one working was the left channel .i have made sure the pan is at 12 oclock and all the main controles are level..any help .i am not sure of all the names of the leads i needed . i am basicly wanting to connect my kam 960 decks with kam gx2 mixer .to my behringer mixer out through my gemini 1200 xpm amp .i think thats all right lol .thank u
YourBigEvent
Jun 2 2005, 07:25 PM
Why do you want to connect your Kam mixer to your Behringer, why not just connect your CD players into the Behringer ?
As for the other problem, are you using jack leads, you will need two phono to jack mono leads, plug them into the stereo channel and all should be OK, if you are plugging them onto a non stereo channel (mono) you will need two channels, plug the jack into the line in on channel 4, and the same on channel 5, use the pan controls to give you LH nad RH, and fade both chaneels 4 and 5 up, this should give you a stereo output.
huracain
Sep 8 2005, 11:17 PM
ok thank u for all the help .the sad thing was this i was doing everything right.the reason i was only getting mono instead of sterio from my cd decks to my behringer mixer was . u wont beleive this .the amp the one i was using had monural and crossover and sterio .does anyone want to geus were the little button was on . monural .now beive it or not i have used this amp on quite a few gigs with it in this setting .but sadly never picked up on it untill today . now another question for u .is the sound quality in monoral bad .i geus that sterio is best .but why does it have monural and what is for ?
YourBigEvent
Sep 9 2005, 06:55 AM
Mono is used for a few applications, including setting up three amps in series, if you look at your crossover, if you have one, you will be given the option there too.
There are afew other reason too, which the other guys will explain about as it is 8am and I have to leave for an all day wedding today..........Roll on 1am !!
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