The Spindoctor
May 10 2003, 10:40 AM
Ok we all know the Scenario real bad night somebody rubbed you up the wrong way........... are we a vengeful lot? Did you manage to even the score?
I'll kick off.
Many years ago I was booked for a Social club on the Sat I was driving back from Cornwall. So me being a caring, responsible, DJ phones the roadie and says the equipment has to be at such and such set up for a 8pm start. I'll be there but as soon as possible traffic permitting.
Anyway I get there at 8.45 music is playing club is busy, everybody is happy, well no apparently not. At 10pm the Ent Sec comes over practically throws my money at me and says, by the way all your gigs for the rest of the year are cancelled, we employ you not some 'boy' (Richard was 28 then & 6'5") I explained about my holiday, slight traffic delay but the equipment was set up lunchtime and I was there for the main part of the evening. "I don't care its my decision, and you're finished here"!!
So at this point I saw red I was tired and peeved I walks into the hall and says to Richard "ok mate pack up we're going home". The ent sec is saying "You can't do that" I said "WATCH" and left him standing at the door like a goldfish open mouthed with no disco and a club full of unhappy punters who fortunately blamed him not me!! (I had already mentioned in banter earlier on that I had driven 300 miles to entertain them, and I am good friends with quite a few of them)
Sometimes revenge can be so sweet!!
(To the younger DJ's here its not something I recommend and in hindsight probably would'nt do now, but then I was young and impetuous)
OK KARAOKE
May 10 2003, 10:53 AM
IMHO you didn`t punish him, you punished the crowd!
Later negotiations may have extracted an apology and reinstatement of your engagements, but the way you handled it precluded that for all time.
Sad really.
The Spindoctor
May 10 2003, 11:09 AM
I agree with you ............... in hindsight! Hence the rider on the end!
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| (To the younger DJ's here its not something I recommend and in hindsight probably would'nt do now, but then I was young and impetuous) |
OK KARAOKE
May 10 2003, 11:13 AM
Must have been a bag of mixed emotions there. Angry at the treatment. elated at the one-upmanship, and then deflated at the thought of the lost work.
Maybe you should send them a bill for the extensive counselling you needed afterwards?
Chrispy
May 10 2003, 11:25 AM
Well there are other ways of getting revenge on a non paying client, crooked agent, or venue manager who has maybe ripped you off, or just being a bastard to work for

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(1) Advertise a Car Boot or Garage Sale at their address in the (Free) local paper!. Push the fact that all stallholders and buyers must turn up at 6AM in order to take advantage of the limited space / best bargains
(2) Advertise a bargain, again in loot or a free paper. such as Brand New Volvo for £5600 or a Brand New PC for £150. Put the reason as being due to owner emigrating - quick sale required etc. Empathise the fact that all calls should be made between 5AM - 7AM due to the sellers "night shift work hours".
(3) Contact the local branch of the Jehovours(sp)witnesses or other similar group posing as the person on whom you want to get revenge!. Explain how interested you are in joining and can they call around one evening for a chat about it.
I have loads of others, but I think that is enough for one day. Needless to say, I am a better friend to have than an enemy!.
The usual disclaimers apply....These tips for education purposes only....don't try this at home kids.......ask the bill payer before calling....etc etc. Lol.
Paul Smith
May 10 2003, 11:43 AM
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| Needless to say, I am a better friend to have than an enemy!. |
I'll make sure I stay on the right side of you then!
Still revenge is sweet.
If you do wanna send anyone around to buy my entire rig for £5 please bear in mind that I'm one of those guys who thinks 11am is still the middle of the night.
Paul S
Dukesy
May 10 2003, 01:39 PM
I make Spindoctors actions quite drastic - but at the time and moment, correct.
How many of us have been mumbling under our breath - "ok i'm going?"
How many times have we wanted to go - faced with an unreasonable situation we are forced into?
I know others may feel it's unprofessional to 'act' like this but wait, it's our living, and, the rug was being pulled from under Spins feet for the rest of the year, not for the night.
OK, regular venue - you can panda and crawl - but what about next time? Or the time after that?
It may have even turned to fisty-cuffs or worse!
To work under a cloud of 'technically sacked' would be stressfull, undermining to the efficient roadie and impractical working conditions without 'advanced' notice.
The best move was to leave there and then. If anything, the Ents sec should have spoken to you after the work but alas, it would seem he or she is totally unprofessional and foolish.
However, later on, older & wiser......
It would be silly to act like this again.
Perhaps another avenue to pursue would be to go to a small claims court, for loss of guaranteed earnings, due to the fact you may have already cancelled work to be available for the previous requested dates. I smell breech of contract - you kept your side of the agreement - he employed your 'company', which, may include staff and resources.
Verbal agreements, contracts, telephone statements and diary's are all legal evidence. :wavey:
The Spindoctor
May 10 2003, 03:16 PM
Thanks for your words Dan.............. yep verbal contract to supply x ammount for the rest of the year etc. I considered long and hard doing that aswell, and wrote a letter to the Management committee in that vein setting out the whole incident. I did'nt even get the courtesy of a reply.
mobile_dj_crooks
May 10 2003, 05:28 PM
lol...that sucks. I probably would have done the same as spin did though...Then get revenge the way chris does
other ways to get revenge:
Spray Paint! Need i explain futher? (although HIGHLY illegal)
For Sale/Open House - Make a sign or something like it advertising for the person's house. Say no appointments required at 10-12 or w/e, and so on....
Word of mouth - Tell MANY people what happened (even if u have to lie to spice it up) so they will not work for the person....
And so on....
Dukesy
May 11 2003, 12:35 AM
Still can't beat the old Cash on delivery calls - Turf, Paving Slabs, Manure!!!!
I have been done by all three from a so called pal (tee heh). But I got my own back - and THAT was a legend in itself!
mikeee
May 11 2003, 02:30 AM
Always remember "don't get angry, get even"
paula
May 11 2003, 11:52 AM
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| Still can't beat the old Cash on delivery calls - Turf, Paving Slabs, Manure!!!! I have been done by all three |
He he, do we know each other?
Ok, You will need a nice new shiny car all rush out and buy a bag of marshmallows now!!!
Lick 1 side of the marshmallow and stick it to your car, it will stick and I mean stick,
Now imagine what it would be like to wake up one morning and find that your car has about 400 all over it...
Now you know what I get up to in the middle of the night,
Failing marshmallows you could use roll out grass!!
I'm glad Chris is like minded, when I run out of my own ideas I'll be mailing you...
The Spindoctor
May 11 2003, 01:02 PM
............. and if you're really really serious but scared of concesquences from our friends in blue.............. you know cars and paint stripper............... well thats too dodgy to explain in the middle of the night to your friendly constable....
BUT............... if you buy chinese and one extra portion of Sweet and sour sauce and it 'fell' on the victims car.............. does'nt remove paint but it does leave it several shades lighter by morning............ proper respray lighter shades!!! and it was of course an accident............. you tripped!
kazzachi
May 14 2003, 11:13 PM
..My best revenge was against a customer who had told the hotel where he was hosting his wedding reception that he was the General Manager of the Hilton London (funny ..... so why wasnt he having his wedding there). He had asked if I could supply some music to be piped in the background during the wedding breakfast and I obliged by recording two discs, including mostly his requests. Anyway, I said that afterwards he could keep the discs with our compliments and wrote "complimentary" on discs and instructed hotel to pass them onto him after wedding.
He lorded it around, drunk as a skunk, telling everyone how important he was and flashing fifty pound notes all night and duly paid the DJ (my husband) at the end of the night. He paid the £250 which was agreed and congratulated my hubby on a brilliant night.
Well, cut a long story short, it was very apparant that this guy obviously had champagne tastes with beer pockets - he spent too much money and obviously regretted it... so he tried to sue the florist, then got in touch with the hotel to say that one of the discs we had recorded for him had gone missing and as it had cost him £80 he would sue the hotel if it was not found! He really didnt know much about hotel policy seeing as he was so called "General Manager" of the Hilton (which a quick phone call to said hotel confirmed that he was actually a security guard) - the hotel stated that there were notices asking guests to take care of their belongings, no responsibility etc etc...so getting no joy there, he decided he would sue us for the discs which he had not paid for but insisted that we had charged him £80 - well he had told the hotel that so he had to continue with it.
The best revenge was that we would teach a B.S..tt.r that we could play him at his own game. We told him that the hotel had gone to the extraordinary lengths of contacting employeees who had since left, and Yes, one had actually taken the disc by mistake.... I duly recorded him another disc - which told him just what we thought of him, and at the same time tied his hands of being able to sue anybody over the discs... The disc included songs such as "your lying", "who the hell are you" "money for nothing" "the great pretender" "moneys too tight to mention" "the birdie song" etc etc...... ending up with "thank you for the music" which was purposely scratched.... The best thing was that he actually phoned the hotel in a rage!!! He knew what we had done, we knew what we had done and he could do nothing about it!!!! Still perhaps one day the sorry little security guard who pretends to be someone he isnt, may get promotion!
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