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Dukesy
Winners at the Brit Awards, held at London's Earls Court:

Did you agree with the results?

British Male Solo Artist
Calvin Harris
Dizzee Rascal - WINNER!
Mika
Paolo Nutini
Robbie Williams

British Female Solo Artist
Bat For Lashes
Florence And The Machine
Leona Lewis
Lily Allen - WINNER!
Pixie Lott

British Breakthrough Act
Florence And The Machine
Friendly Fires
JLS - WINNER!
La Roux
Pixie Lott

British Group
Doves
Friendly Fires
JLS
Kasabian - WINNER!
Muse

Mastercard British Album
Dizzee Rascal - Tongue 'N Cheek
Florence And The Machine - Lungs - WINNER!
Kasabian - West Ryder Pauper Lunatic Asylum
Lily Allen - It's Not Me, It's You
Paolo Nutini - Sunny Side Up

British Single
Alesha Dixon - 'Breathe Slow'
Alexandra Burke ft. Flo Rida - 'Bad Boys'
Cheryl Cole - 'Fight For This Love'
Joe McElderry - 'The Climb'
JLS - 'Beat Again' - WINNER!
La Roux - 'In For The Kill'
Lily Allen - 'The Fear'
Pixie Lott - 'Mama Do'
Taio Cruz - 'Break Your Heart'
Tinchy Stryder ft. N-Dubz - 'Number 1'

International Male Solo Artist
Bruce Springsteen
Eminem
Jay-Z - WINNER!
Michael Buble
Seasick Steve

International Female Solo Artist
Lady GaGa - WINNER!
Ladyhawke
Norah Jones
Rihanna
Shakira

International Breakthrough Act
Animal Collective
Daniel Merriweather
Empire Of The Sun
Lady GaGa - WINNER!
Taylor Swift

International Album
Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion
Black Eyed Peas - The E.N.D.
Empire Of The Sun - Walking On Dream
Jay-Z - The Blueprint 3
Lady GaGa - The Fame - WINNER!

British Producer of the Year
Jim Abbiss
Paul Epworth - WINNER!
Ethan Johns
Steve Lillywhite

Critics' Choice Award
Ellie Goulding - WINNER!

Outstanding Contribution to Music
Robbie Williams - WINNER!

Brits Performance of 30th Year
Bee Gees - 'Stayin' Alive' / 'How Deep Is Your Love' (1997)
Bros - 'I Owe You Nothing' (1989)
Coldplay - 'Clocks' (2003)
Eurythmics and Stevie Wonder - 'Angel' (1999)
Girls Aloud - 'The Promise' (2009)
Kanye West - 'Gold Digger' (2006)
Kylie Minogue - 'Can't Get You Out Of My Head' (2002)
Michael Jackson - 'Earth Song' (1996)
Paul McCartney - 'Live And Let Die' (2008)
Pet Shop Boys - 'Go West' (1994)
Robbie Williams and Tom Jones - Full Monty medley (1998)
Scissor Sisters - 'Take Your Mama' (2005)
Spice Girls - 'Wannabe' / 'Who Do You Think You Are' (1997) - WINNER!
The Who - 'Who Are You' (1988)

Brits Album of 30 Years
Coldplay - A Rush Of Blood To The Head
Dido - No Angel
Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms
Duffy - Rockferry
Keane - Hopes & Fears
Oasis - What's The Story Morning Glory - WINNER!
Phil Collins - No Jacket Required
Sade - Diamond Life
The Verve - Urban Hymns
Travis - The Man Who
Robster
I generally agree with the results

I personally think best song should have gone to a artist or band that wrote the original song themselves as a nod to the art of song writing and not the performers of the song ,Wayne Hector, Steve Mac Deserve a lot of credit for beat again that it was good enough for JLS to use instead of a tired cover for there first single.

I was surprised at how bad Kasabian sounded live and how bad Cheryl Coles lip syncing was.

But over all very reasonable representation of the current state of the music charts ..will have to look up who the Animal Collective are as they didn't win anything but seemed to be nominated a few times and i had never heard of them!
Forster
I think JLS's category was tight. They probably won it because they seem to be in the Lime Light at the moment where as the other nominees have had their moment, for now. If you get what I mean.
I think Muse should have won British Group in my opinion.

Not wanting to go off topic but, what the hell was Lady GaGa's set meant to be? I know it was a tribute but... huh.gif

I suppose when they get to such a high level anything they do is adored by their huge fan base regardless.

James.
Teez
Having watched the Fleetwood/Fox debacle all those years ago and switched off halfway through out of sheer embarassement,(she still hadn't learnt how to work a crowd last night either) I thought last night was a good result.

You notice that some of the awards were proudly declared as public vote but others there was no mention at all as to how the winner was selected.... hmmmmm still some work there methinks.

Lady GaGa never ceases to amaze me. She deserved the awards, my dancefloors fill up with her music every time. First time I'd heard her sound human/vulnerable and thought she'd be just the type of girl to take home and introduce to mum!

PK was spot on calling Gallagher a knobhead (yes he did call him that), apparently the award he threw into the crowd will be on eBay soon.

Cheryl Cole actually mimed well, it was just that the headphones and the broadcast were out of sync. The same problem was seen on another song, there was a constant lag. The sound also kept cutting out. I originally thought it was censorship. I'm inviting Cheryl back to meet mum as well btw whistling.gif

And I thought Wobbie redeemed himself last night although many think that was probably his swansong.


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stoke53
They never seem to pick a decent presenter for the show though. I though Peter Kay was awfull he looked like a wooden puppet with no personality perhaps the autocue was too far away and his so called jests left a lot to be desired. I think the show needs someone who's actually in the music industry to present it. My favourite bit was the Kasabian performance.

alan
deejaymitch
I thought the show once again highlighted the lack of any decent British music talent out there at the minute. Peter Kay's sarcasm was very welcome amongst all the ridiculously inflated egos, he made the ceremony bearable.

Most of the "live" performaces were mimed. Although Cheryl Cole's performance was awful, the mix of Fight For This Love with Show Me Love was a refreshing touch on a grossly over-played song. The only performers who came away with any credit were Jay-Z and Alicia Keys who I thought were excellent.

Jay-Z was clearly deserving of his award, it's hard to say the same about any of the other winners. Although the lack of decent candidates in most categories makes it hard to argue with the awards. Although it seemed that agreeing to perform at the show definitely helped certain artists get the nod from the judges.

Geri Halliwell is still a complete idiot. The same goes for the irritating Fearne Cotton, I cannot fathom how that woman has achieved a career in broadcasting.

Lady Gargoyle was as irritating as ever, from her ridiculously self-indulgent performance of obscure songs, to her completely disingenious acceptance speeches. The sooner this creature disappears the better in my opinion. I think the fact that, in the space of little over a year, she has rehashed one album into 3 separate releases, and milked 7 singles from that one album (in essence), she recognises her time in the spotlight is limited and is cashing in as much as possible on her 15 minutes before the next freakshow appears and steals her spotlight.

And most depressing of all - it is farcical that anyone would want to publicly recognise Robbie Williams' contribution to music at all. But to describe it as "outstanding" is an insult to the many talented artists that the UK has produced over the years.


Teez
I would just say that IMHO the Brits is not an event that recognises pure talent, nor does it try hard to pretend that either. Very few of these events recognise pure talent.

Instead, they recognise commercial talent and good timing.

In Gaga's case it was mainly down to how many people bothered texting in their votes and more people voted for her than the others.

Just as any decent human being wondered what the hell Jedward were doing surviving so long, we have to recognise that it's the votes that did it.

Not only that, but the people who want Gaga and Jedward are the people that get up and dance at weddings and birthday parties with DJ's performing.

I'm tempted not to link the DJ talent debate to this, but the average half cut punter at a dance event won't be able to tell the difference between a DJ with talent and a DJ that plays the top 100 dancefloor hits compilation in sequence. We have the same problems in our industry as well.

Bearing in mind Gaga wrote these songs, I think she is extremely talented. Nevertheless, it doesnt matter whether she is talented or not, she has songs that people dance to, created an image, built on the mystery and has won more votes than anyone else in her category. Now that's commercial talent!

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Forster
It is interesting to see that Teez is the only one that touched on the awards from a DJ's point of view. I may only be fresh to the forum but I wonder what would happen if there was an awards ceremony for the best song produced that gets people dancing. DJ's being the judges. That would be interesting to see who would win.

James
spinner
QUOTE(Teez @ Feb 17 2010, 10:33 PM)



the people who want Gaga and Jedward are the people that get up and dance at weddings......... with DJ's performing.


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Whilst that may be true it has not been my experience!
deejaymitch
QUOTE(Teez @ Feb 17 2010, 10:33 PM)

Bearing in mind Gaga wrote these songs, I think she is extremely talented. Nevertheless, it doesnt matter whether she is talented or not, she has songs that people dance to, created an image, built on the mystery and has won more votes than anyone else in her category. Now that's commercial talent!


Just to clarify, she CO-WROTE most of the songs. Of the 7 singles the only one she wrote on her own was the abysmal Lovegame, which peaked at #19 in the UK charts. Perhaps the fact that the successful ones are written by with other people (with no mentions of disco sticks) is a coincidence. whistling.gif

As for creating a mysterious image and having songs that people dance to, I guess that puts her on a par with Jive Bunny.
sweetie
QUOTE(Robster @ Feb 17 2010, 01:48 PM)

But over all very reasonable representation of the current state of the music charts ..will have to look up who the Animal Collective are as they didn't win anything but seemed to be nominated a few times and i had never heard of them!



Animal collective are an excellent American indie band who have been going for years but released one of the most critically acclaimed albums of '09, Merriweather Post Pavillion. Mad as a box of frogs too!
gadget
QUOTE(deejaymitch @ Feb 18 2010, 03:12 PM)

Just to clarify, she CO-WROTE most of the songs. Of the 7 singles the only one she wrote on her own was the abysmal Lovegame, which peaked at #19 in the UK charts. Perhaps the fact that the successful ones are written by with other people (with no mentions of disco sticks) is a coincidence. whistling.gif

As for creating a mysterious image and having songs that people dance to, I guess that puts her on a par with Jive Bunny.


The Chew Fu Ghettohouse Fix is a half-decent version of Love Game. The original is tedious and Zzz.....

Co-wrote.. Didn't Victoria Beckham claim the same for Dane Bowers track..?



Teez
That's a really difficult one. I don't think such a chart could be done properly because there are too many variables.

I thought I'd write down some thoughts...

More people dance in some clubs after the dealer has done his rounds than before. Nothing to do with chart selection there. There is also a peak part of an evening where the booze makes you want to dance to just about anything. Leave it too late though and a kebab becomes more important! Again nothing to do with charts here.

Club DJ's favourite track lists will be significantly different to Mobile DJ's and as I would guess that more than 2/3 of paid DJ's in the UK are MDJ's trying to get a representative chart will be impossible.

Club music is all about what's cool, contemporary and sexy. MDJ's want the same but also want to get Granny up on the floor too. I can't see MOS playing the original Nolan Sisters.

Often club dancefloors are packed not because the music is good but because the owners want to fill the place with booze buying customers and there often isnt anywhere else for people to stand.

Dancefloor filling therefore may not always have a connection with the most popular song.

If the various DJ's associations were to merge and form a proper DJ Union that DJ's had to belong to (like the MU) then maybe that organisation may have an online live poll for its members. That's about the only way I think such a chart system would ever work.

Apologies for the rambling

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Wayne 74

Personally, I think the whole thing was a bag of pooh.gif , only 4 acts actually performing live. And these people call themselves entertainment?????????

Over rated, Over Paid, and not worth the airtime!!!!!!

Wayne
deejaymitch
QUOTE(gadget @ Feb 18 2010, 04:28 PM)

Co-wrote.. Didn't Victoria Beckham claim the same for Dane Bowers track..?


My point entirely. The song she wrote alone is terrible. The ones she co-wrote are popular. My inference is that she didn't contribute much to the collaborations.

Co-writing credits given to artists always make me suspicious. The greatest performer of all time, Elvis Presley, has several song-writing credits, most of which are undeserved and only appeared thanks to the great swindler Col Tom Parker. To go off on a tangent, I love the folk legend behind Elvis' songwriting credit on "All Shook Up". As I'm sure you all know several refrains in the song end with the line "I'm in love" followed by a pause, then the line "I'm all shook up." However in the last chorus after "I'm in love" Elvis slapped the back of his guitar, so it goes "I'm in love (THUD) I'm all shook up". For this slap, Elvis was given a song-writing credit. (In fairness some accounts dispute this story saying Elvis also altered some lyrics).

Going off on a further tangent, I've always loved the story behind Otis Blackwell writing All Shook Up. For any other music nerds, here's an account:

Songwriter Otis Blackwell ("Don't Be Cruel," Great Balls of Fire," "Return to Sender," "Fever") remembers the genesis of one song: "A fellow that used to work in the Shalamar (Music) office came in with this Coca Cola bottle. He was told I could write a song about anything. So he made me a bet. (According to lore, he began shaking the coke bottle and letting the fizzing soda squirt all over the wall, betting Otis that he couldn't write a song about the fizzing coke. Otis took the bet and retired to his writer's cell.) I didn't realize what the hell I was doing. I went in and wrote 'All Shook Up.'


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