Hi All

Already got some good advice on PA equipment so thought I would ask again!

Taking over a pub, there will be no audio left in the premises by the time its handed over.

I want to have live bands in every weekend, interlaced with DJ during their set to break it up a bit with some dancing.

I have two rooms which I would like to work independently of each other, and also together when required.

Bar - Largest of the rooms
Lounge - smaller of the rooms.

My own equipment;

Karaoke Amp - KKA 300 power amp
Speakers - KAM Z Series x 2, Skytec 400w x 2
Kam Wireless Mics

I also have a PC which I use to run my music and karaoke. I use swift elite 4 for karaoke, and Virtual DJ for my music.


I really want to try and be flexible so I can swap the rooms around without any compromise. At the moment there is a central cupboard with all the music running through a pc (not sure of the software) and I would like to replicate this but with the ability of running a feed out to a desk for a DJ at the weekend...although not sure if that will be possible.

I will have sky sports on during the week, and I would like to be able to pump this into both rooms, or either room separately so I can show it in the lounge rather than the bar or vice versa.

I also want to be able to do with the DJ so I can hold a private function running its own music in the lounge or bar, whilst something totally different is happening in the other room.

Whilst I am suffering from a slight mental illness in taking on a bar, I'm also skint...so please bear this in mind when recommending.


Once again, thanks in advance for your help.

Dougie

sort of related but not , having worked in publand a lot and knowing how councils and neighbours are.... when specifying any sound system think very very carefully not just about volume and coverage and placement of speakers for the best performance in the pub but how the sound will affect neighbours, there is no point spending a lot of money and time getting a great system only to be told that you cant use it because of noise complaints.


doing what you wish to do ie sky to two amps and dj sounds to one or both is relevantly easy its just leads and connection points. Maplins etc have everything you need for the connection part. i dont know your skill level with a soldering iron or understanding wiring.

most mixers have more than one pre out for example so that allows you to go to two amps so everything wired into that mixer can feed two sets of speakers ie one set in one room and one set in another a simple line level switch will allow you to turn a set on or off without un plugging the cables everytime..note this is a cheap way of doing it ..there are nice multi room solutions out there but they obviously cost £££ matrix switches etc but considering the budget and your possible returns i think cheap would be the way to go.

... as already said about sound systems ....

In terms of behind the bar, I reckon you would need something like this
http://www.cloud.co.uk/2-zone-stereo-mixer-cx163.asp

2 Zones for the 2 rooms, you can control levels independantly behind the bar and override with a microphone if necessary. This way you will always have control of level with one easy unit.

You can have up to 6 sources in 2 zones, so it should cover all bases. Sky, DJ, Band. MP3 playback etc.

I know you said you were tight on budget, but at some point it would certainly be worth considering a loudspeaker management system such as BSS Soundweb or Allan & Heath IDR systems. These systems allow you to connect a selection of sources to a selection of outputs. The system is programmed by computer based software, which allows to add EQ, compression, limits etc.. It also had additional attachments such as control switches which would allow you to preset a switch in each venue to flick across to the preset which you require. As said, these units are pricey, but are very useful.

As a cheap temporary fix, you will need a live sound mixer if you have live acts performing. You can have one lounge fed from the main stereo outs, and the secondary lounge fed from group outs. This way you can control the level for each venue separately. For DJ, just set the DJ mixer up as a submix from 2 channels on your PA mixer.

Hope that helps.

Welshy, thanks for the reply and the pm. Unfortunately I can't PM back because I haven't posted enough but in answer to your question, I am just outside Glasgow!!! I take it you are in Wales?

No problem mate. No, not in wales anymore matey, I am actually in West Yorkshire but I can't work out how to change my profile. haha!