I'm new at this venture, so here goes I bought a strobe light last week to accompany my other lights I have.
I am planning to bring them with me to a gig at a hotel wedding reception. Good Idea or not? Do I put a warning sign somewhere or what? or do i find through the client if he knows of any guests with epilepsy etc.
Or do I just not bother bringing them.

regards
DJ santiago

when booking a disco i always ask the client if there are any special requirements such as non strobe lighting ....

if they say no then if you feel strobe is needed for lots of dance floor mayhem then go for it...

anyone who is photo sensitive will know them selfs that a disco or nightclub could = a fit so will avoid them ..

its not normal to see a sign in a night club so why should you put one up...

also its not just white strobes that can cause this kind of thing, some people are more sensitive to a colour or hypnotic water type effect...

ask nicely if the client says its ok to use disco lighting as no one is going to be ill then go for it...

At one of the residencies that I had I used to have warning signs on the door for lasers and strobes.
The one for the strobe had wording on it to the effect of "Strobe lighting may be used - if anybody has any objections to its use please inform the DJ".
Nobody ever did though.
The thing is if you are going to use strobes, only use them for a very short time and also keep the flash rate slower than 5 per second. The only time I tend to use them are on some rock tracks and at 18th's on dance/trance.
I think there are a couple of threads about their use on the site.

Jim

My current contract has a section that asks them to inform me wether they believe that lights would be a problem etc, I would make sure i had a contract, then if someone was to ever try and sue you can pass it back to the customer

Is it me or are strobes a bit 1980's?

Can't say I've seen one used in about 15 years.

If I work for my agent it is strictly no strobes

no, modern clubs are still using strobes, and other stroboscopic effects.


Before a gig, if you plan to use a strobe, consult the persons ordering the work and alert them to the fact that you plan to use strobe lighting and do they know of any reason why such lighting effects cannot be used.

if youget the go ahead from them, obtain proof of such events. then at your gig, display a couple of signs alerting guests that strobe lighting is in effect and will be used throughout this event.


Then you are covered.

alternativly, if you can do without your strobe effects, leave them at home!




When you enter a nightclub you are agreeing to their house rules as such. enter at own risk etc etc....


If you asked a club manager to produce such documents, which you are entitled to see, if the club uses stroboscopic effects, 99.9% of the time, this document will have writted somewhere that strobes are in effect and if you suffer from detremental effects due to strobe lighting, you enter the premises at your own risk etc etc and all the gumf that goes with it..


believe me, night clubs cover their own backs in such respects.


Hope that helps




When you enter a nightclub you are agreeing to their house rules as such. enter at own risk etc etc....


If you asked a club manager to produce such documents, which you are entitled to see, if the club uses stroboscopic effects, 99.9% of the time, this document will have writted somewhere that strobes are in effect and if you suffer from detremental effects due to strobe lighting, you enter the premises at your own risk etc etc and all the gumf that goes with it..


believe me, night clubs cover their own backs in such respects.


Hope that helps



When you enter a nightclub you are agreeing to their house rules as such. enter at own risk etc etc....


If you asked a club manager to produce such documents, which you are entitled to see, if the club uses stroboscopic effects, 99.9% of the time, this document will have it written somewhere that strobes are in effect and if you suffer from detremental effects due to strobe lighting, you enter the premises at your own risk etc etc and all the gumf that goes with it..


believe me, night clubs cover their own backs in such respects.


Hope that helps

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When you enter a nightclub you are agreeing to their house rules as such. enter at own risk etc etc....


If you asked a club manager to produce such documents, which you are entitled to see, if the club uses stroboscopic effects, 99.9% of the time, this document will have writted somewhere that strobes are in effect and if you suffer from detremental effects due to strobe lighting, you enter the premises at your own risk etc etc and all the gumf that goes with it..


believe me, night clubs cover their own backs in such respects.


Hope that helps

When you enter a nightclub you are agreeing to their house rules as such. enter at own risk etc etc....


If you asked a club manager to produce such documents, which you are entitled to see, if the club uses stroboscopic effects, 99.9% of the time, this document will have writted somewhere that strobes are in effect and if you suffer from detremental effects due to strobe lighting, you enter the premises at your own risk etc etc and all the gumf that goes with it..


believe me, night clubs cover their own backs in such respects.


Hope that helps

When you enter a nightclub you are agreeing to their house rules as such. enter at own risk etc etc....


If you asked a club manager to produce such documents, which you are entitled to see, if the club uses stroboscopic effects, 99.9% of the time, this document will have it written somewhere that strobes are in effect and if you suffer from detremental effects due to strobe lighting, you enter the premises at your own risk etc etc and all the gumf that goes with it..


believe me, night clubs cover their own backs in such respects.


Hope that helps
They obviously print it in triplicate too

Jim

dont forget that ordinary effect lights strobe too..eg datamoon..ive had someone go into fit seizure on the dance floor with a datamoon.

Paul

Is the easiest answer "dont use a strobe it's too much hassle lol

No Strobe it is then. Anyone have any ideas as what i can compliment my mushroom lights with? as i'm losing the strobe? - don't forget i'm still a relative newcomer to this djing thing.

Have a look at purelight lasers

I use a couple of green 60mw and 1 red 100mw, they are going for peanuts on ebay and with a bit of smoke are the best lighting effects I've seen

I stopped using strobe lighting at weddings many years ago. They can cause more problems than the effect is worth (in terms of the effect rather than the price of it).

Just had a look on ebay. Could you be a bit more specific though. anything under 100 quid considered.

Unless you are aware of the regulations I wouldn't advocate the cheap lasers on ebay.
You are pretty safe with the KAM cluster though.
I use professional lasers and software, rather than just pointing a greenie blindly into a crowd.

Jim

the kam clusters are a bit out of my price range(ebay), how about these vango lights advertised in Maplinstore. would they accopany the mushroom lights.

thanks Santiago

Strobe warning, in my residency yes we have warnings on my mobile no i do not
Even normal disco lights can trigger a fit so where do you stand?
Weddings i would not use strobe lighting but at a 18th/21st i use 2 1500 watt strobes & 4 mini strobes, but i think what is need is a bit of common sense on your part & of course anyone who is effected by this lighting to speak to you
However if one person asked in my residency to not use strobe lighting i would refuse & point out if you dont like them then dont come in you were warned!!!!

I would be amazed that somebody who suffers from flash lighting and strobe lights would turn up to a function without the very least talking to the venue before hand.

This reminds of a Xmas party i did last year at my hotel venue. During the meal I was approached by a very pleasant lady who asked me not to use any flashing lights after the meal had finished. This meant all of them!! I spoke to the hotel manager and he agreed that this was an unreasonable request as they should have contacted the hotel prior to the function and would ruin the evening for the other 100 guests. In the end we agreed to turn the light on at 10.15pm allowing enough time for the meal to finish and for the lady to go into another bar.

Well, I had a pleasant surprise with my lights last night.

I tend to try to "paint" the walls and ceiling with just a simple effect on the floor. last night it was my Twinkle (kalaido effect gobo). During the evening a guest can up and complimented me on the arrangement of lighting. He was epileptic and was concerned before he arrived that he might have problems and have to leave. But he said the effect was great and hadn't bothered him at all.

Jim,

18 months ago the Purelights were 200 quid each and I purchased mine from a reputable DJ shop in wolverhampton.

They have now come down to 80 quid if you shop around, so you can have a combined red and green - more powerful than the cam kluster for approx 150 quid.

I would rather buy stuff off Ebay and save paying stupid shop prices anyday of the week lol

Went to a club last night with some mates, and on the door theres a sign


"We use loads of smoke and funky flashing lights - if this causes a problem please dont come in!"

I thought it went straight to the point........

QUOTE: "We use loads of smoke and funky flashing lights - if this causes a problem please dont come in!"

LOL, brilliant!! Can we have one saying "This is a DANCE club, don't harrass our DJs by asking for Bon Jovi etc as ejection often offends"

well i see that alot of the newer member have not done much research into strobe effects & also epileptic conditions.

the epileptic association branch i had dealt with in the past had done much to help me in getting a definitive answer

firstly epileptics can do alotto help themselves... new medication, and the old chestnut or covering one eye before seizure is iminent !!!

secondly us guys can do alot as well.

strobes
no more than 13 flashes per second for no more than 15 seconds in a 5 minute period.
theatre and production as well as TV commercials are well aware of the strobing effects !!!! and is good enough to adhere to !!!
to many djs use a strobe in a haphazzard way which borders on dangerous !!! ie more than 15 seconds or continuous burst !!!!

Using a highter poer stobe like the martin atomic 3000 at full blast can help also as the iris in the epileptics eye cannot react as fast ... so closes the iris so that the the stobe effect does not effect them as much.

discharge lamps

no percieved problems woth these other than barrel effects !!!!! that when scrolled may produce a stroobe effect.

halogen or flourecent

these in their nature have a 50hz strobing pulse

agian epileptics CAN be affected... but very rarely

The advice that the assocation gave me was fairly good !!!!

and if some killjoy pertaining to be a svere epileptic comes up to you complaining, you may ask the question ... what are you doing exposing yourself to the risk... if you are that bas you should NOT be in here.

They know the risk ... be firm !!!!!!

As always.. they know they can play on the facts !!!! but know your stuff & they will soon back off. The lighting is for the majority... why spoil a good evening just for one person !!!!!

Moral to the story strobes are more trouble than they're worth lol