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Gary
I've got my first Christmas Dinner Dance of the season approaching in 3 weeks...well, I suppose Christmas is only 50 days away.

Now, as some of you will have already found out, song after song of Christmas music is ok for the background music during the meal at Dinner Dances which are very close to Christmas eg: the last few days before Christmas, but people seem to prefer more of a mixture, if Christmas is still a little way away.

So, if your CD-decks offer you Robo-start, or Relay-play features, where one track will play from one CD, and then one track will play from the other CD, heres an idea, which I've just tried.

I've burnt a CD-R, with a track order of a christmas track, followed by a normal track, a christmas track, a normal track, and so on...all the way through the disc.

If you put this disc on Relay Play (Robo-start) in one drive, and a normal non-christmas CD in the other deck, your audience will hear 1 x Christmas Song, followed by 2 x normal songs, then 1 x Christmas song, and two normal songs again...etc..etc.. meaning that only 33% of the background music is "Christmassy".

If you swap the Non-Christmas CD, for a Christmassy CD, then the percentage goes up to 66% Christmassy background music, suitable for mid December Dinner Dances.

Either method gives you 160 minutes...ermmm thats 2hours 40mins, of suitable background music, until you need to think about changing the CD's. (or about a day, if you're using MP3 CD's)

I'm off to the bar...drink anyone?...Not you Paula, I've already got a mortgage biggrin.gif ...oh come on then... pepsi.gif

If your decks have got "Power-on Play" options, just fit a timeswitch to the wall socket and turn up in time for the coffee and mints... smile.gif
kazzachi
great idea gazza.... unless like me, the hotel I work for use their own surround sound during the meal so that the people next to the speakers dont get deafened and those at the back can still hear.... hehehe I love it... no work for me and I dont have to even think about the background music!
DJ Spinko
Gary,
Good idea, even without decks that will facilitate just being left alone. I used to just play Christmas stuff during the meal but this year I'm going to alternate with those well known tunes from this year, which will give me a bit of self-justification for buying this year's music.
Spinko
paula
Gaaaaaarrrrrrryyyy
Was is it with you and Christmas? you've been reminding us about it since July fear.gif

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I'm off to the bar...drink anyone?...Not you Paula, I've already got a mortgage  ...oh come on then...
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NineLives
QUOTE (Gary @ Nov 5 2003, 12:37 PM)
If your decks have got "Power-on Play" options, just fit a timeswitch to the wall socket and turn up in time for the coffee and mints... smile.gif

Unless some mummy's little angel decides to turn your amp to max along with the mixer while you are in the lounge watching the footie laugh.gif

That would make you jump when the timer switched on !! wacko.gif smile.gif
Gary
Paul Mccartneys' "Simply having a wonderful Christmas time", is enough to make me jump, at any sort of volume. scared.gif

My amps are tamperproof, and thanks to good ventilation I can lock the flightcase lid over the mixer. But, yes, you're right - best check everything.

In reality, I dont use a time-switch, and infact, my latest flightcase even uses a "Speakon Powercon" type connector lead, which I take away with me each night, if Im leaving the gear set up. I wouldnt put it past some hotels to try a lead from a Kettle, into the more traditional IEC connectors on some disco gear, but I doubt that they'd have a Powercon lead lying around.
Dj_Kray
QUOTE (kazzachi @ Nov 5 2003, 01:36 PM)
so that the people next to the speakers dont get deafened and those at the back can still hear....

This is a real problem at my regular xmas hotel as they cram far to many people in the rooms.
NineLives
Does people sitting right up with their backs or coats hanging from the back of chairs to your speakers/bass bins , cause damage to the speaker cones? I was told it does , but would like to know for sure.
YourBigEvent
Chris, Are you going to tell them or shall I ?

Get a laptop, set up at dinnertime, tell the computer to start play music at 19:45:00 (that 15 minutes to eight Karen !!) and put in the playlist what you want Christmassy, if that is a word, or not Christmassy. End of the night unplug one lead and take 7000 songs with you !!

Dj_Kray
I tryed the laptop thing but i could not get my head round it, i belive its the future but not for me just yet i mean i still buy and use vinyl.
Gary
QUOTE (ADS Entertainments @ Nov 5 2003, 09:37 PM)
End of the night unplug one lead

Wow! modern technology - how do they get the incoming power, and the outgoing audio, all down one lead? smartass.gif

I DO like some of the principles of Laptop DJ'ing, especially the "find any song in a few seconds", and 80,000 tracks in one easy to carry shoulder bag (suits you sir!). The ideal of having a secondary laptop (in addition to the "quarrantined" laptop thats running the audio) linked via my mobile to Kazaa for "any song - in 5 minutes" gets my vote too - deleting the track after playing it, of course.

But, like DJ Kray, Laptop DJ'ing isnt for me, but for different reasons. The potential lack of reliability (and lack of fallback options) is something which I wouldn't have peace of mind about - I'd be tense at each gig until Windows booted, and the application loaded -even on a laptop quarrantined for nothing but the DJ application, oh and Windows, ah and the drivers for the sound card etc. Then breathe sigh of relief.

Oh course, for some of the DJ software which I've seen, the above "alternating tracks" CDR can still be used, but with a pair of Playlists. EG: One playlist of "Christmas", "Non-Christmas", "Christmas", "Non-Christmas" etc.., another playlist of "Non-Christmas", "Non-Christmas" etc... as long as the playlists will alternate.
Gary
Just to say, on the subject of Christmas Dinner Dance "during the meal" background music...

Sainsburys have a useful deal on at the moment. Buy any Chart CD from them, and get "The Rat Pack: Christmas CD" for £2.99.

The rat pack CD features Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, and Sammy Davis Junior (in case you didn't know, and were expecting Roland)...and they croon and sing their way though all the usual festive fa la la's.... suitable for most crowds over 35, and in fact everyone else too, as no-one listens to the background music anyway... rolleyes.gif At least you can be fairly sure that you're not going to play anything from this CD later on, unlike sticking on Now Christmas.

Click here for CD details

Now interestingly enough...if you dont want to buy another chart CD, to get this at £2.99, instead of Sainsburys £5.99 price (or was it £7.99) price, you can buy it from Woolworths, on its own for £3.99.


I briefly mentioned "Now Christmas" above...which is a CD that I've had for several years now, and they keep wheeling it out into the shops every bonfire night for 8 weeks...EMI have launched a WHOLE NEW "Now thats what I call Christmas" which spans the decades (ohh, I should be in marketing...) starting off with the oldest of the old christmas tracks, then, by the end of disc 2, its up to date.

Click here for a tracklisting to see what I mean...


brianmole
That tracklist contains something that made me smile:
Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer-Elmo & Patsy
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Never heard it before!
Gary
QUOTE (brianmole @ Nov 19 2004, 01:46 PM)
That tracklist contains something that made me smile:
Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer-Elmo & Patsy
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Never heard it before!

Oh yes, a classic, as are other rare Christmas tunes such as:

All I want for Christmas is a Spice Girl...

Bette Midler: I want a Boob job for Christmas...

The Goodies: Father Christmas Do not Touch me

Chris Hill: Bionic Santa (The first Christmas 7inch vinyl I ever bought - I was 6)

The Goodies: Make a daft noise for Christmas

and

Wierd Al Yankovic: Christmas at Ground Zero...



Another interesting, more up-tempo CD for Christmas background music, can be found at MVC for £3.99, including tracks from Destinys Child: "Silent Night", and Showaddywaddy "Hey Mr Christmas". It also features (probably to make the price cheaper) Wooly & Worth (the sheep and dog off of the current Woolworths Christmas advert), singing a big band rendition of "Winter Wonderland"...

The CD has the stunningly original title of "Winter Wonderland" scared.gif whistling.gif

Kingy
This is how my Christmas parties ran last year and I intend to do the same again this year: Duing courses we do a bit of chat and cabaret giving away some Chatau de'shite.

Starters: A "mix" ( if you call my mixing a "Mix"!!) of TV and film instrumental tunes from the sixties to the nineties. This includes Van Der Valk, which I am hoping to get then Kazooing along to. That worked well last year.The venue supplies everyone with Kazoos.

Main Course: Another mix, starts off with some more TV tunes with vocals (IE Happy Days, Rainbow, You get the idea!!) then goes into a few real cheesey sing a long songs after about 30 mins (Runaround Sue, Long haired lover, Knock three times, Rose Garden)

Deserts: Starts off with the slow grease mix (DMC) and has many well known sing a long ditties, but a bit more disco-ish. This mix lasts for about 30 minutes by which time the punters are gagging foir the dance floor!

I dont do any Christmas music until the last half hour of the show, even then its only a few of the old up tempo faves.

We always finish at exactly 12.30 with White Christmas and use 3 snow machines to cover everyone in snow.
Ian Stewart
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Chris Hill: Bionic Santa (The first Christmas 7inch vinyl I ever bought - I was 6)


This is the same Chris Hill that is the legendary soul DJ from The Goaldmine, and still headlines at the caister Soul Weekends

regarding background music, i tend to leave the Xmas stuff to a minimum, and play my usual style of background music.
Paul Smith
Over the last week I've been listening to the 200+ tracks I have under 'Christmas' classification to check if there's a gem in there that I may have overlooked last year - and there isn't sad.gif

So it'll be a case of rolling out the same gunge this time. For background music I normally play 1 Christmas track then 1 other slow song (soul, rat pack, chart) and repeat until the meal is finished (using different tracks of course biggrin.gif )

Then into the party where again I'm obliged to play some Christmas songs and judging by this years new offerings (The Cheeky Girls springs to mind) it'll be the old classics again but that's another thread.....

PaulS
Digital discos
With regards to Christmas CD's I picked up about 2 mint cd's from a carboot sale with all the classics on Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, Slade, The Osmonds etc. On average I would play about a Christmas track every 5 or 6 songs

Gary, Sorry to sound like an argumentative 188.gif but say if you got a small form type pc (rackmount shuttle etc) you could swap parts around if anything went wrong? I mean you can even have a backup hard drive spinning at the same time?

Surely a PC is just like a cd player? It can go down at any time? But I'm sure you could swap a few parts with a pc relatively straight forward? Even with a laptop you could have a backup external hard drive?

Obviously PC'S/Laptops might not be for everyone, but just a bit of food for thought.

P.S I have been using OTSDJ and a shuttle pc for the last year or so and in the 15 gigs which I have done I have never had one problem, glitch or error. I don't have anything on it apart from I occasionally go on the internet to post a txt file or save a top 40 file thats an html file not any illegal songs.
Gary
QUOTE (Digital discos @ Nov 20 2004, 09:37 AM)
Gary, Sorry to sound like an argumentative 188.gif but say if you got a small form type pc (rackmount shuttle etc) you could swap parts around if anything went wrong? I mean you can even have a backup hard drive spinning at the same time?

Surely a PC is just like a cd player? It can go down at any time? But I'm sure you could swap a few parts with a pc relatively straight forward? Even with a laptop you could have a backup external hard drive?

Obviously PC'S/Laptops might not be for everyone, but just a bit of food for thought.

P.S I have been using OTSDJ and a shuttle pc for the last year or so and in the 15 gigs which I have done I have never had one problem, glitch or error. I don't have anything on it apart from I occasionally go on the internet to post a txt file or save a top 40 file thats an html file not any illegal songs.

Digi, Dont worry about sounding argumentative, as you not being (oh yes, you are, oh no your not biggrin.gif )

This particular thread was started in 2003, and although I personally wouldnt feel happy with certain aspects of DJing from a laptop for 80+ gigs a year, more and more members here are reporting "no probs so far" with their laptops/PCs in disco use. My distrust of pc/laptop based systems have lessened slightly from what it was 12 months ago.
MadGutts
I'm sure when i started reading this topic, it was about crimbo songs !! laugh.gif

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I've burnt a CD-R, with a track order of a christmas track, followed by a normal track, a christmas track, a normal track, and so on...all the way through the disc.

That would give you 3 normal songs and 1 christmas on, then 3 normal.... and so on... BTW.. What are you calling "normal" current chart? softer 80's?

As most have already said.... Use a computer, generate a playlist (and store it) then you can use it time after time!

By the way ppl.... if you have never heard of them then check these out...

"Grabyahbalz"
"Yellow Snow"
"12 Pains of Xmas"
"We Wish you wern't living with us"
And of course:
"Walking round in womens underwear"

There are many, many more and they are from the Twisted tunes albums (order from good record shops!) and slipping a few in the background music will make the audience smile!!! I have the whole collection and use them every year... The only problem is...

... I now know the last one of by heart... oops.gif


... Perhaps i will go carol singing ! fear.gif wallbash.gif

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C.S
or singing as Carol fear.gif
Gary
A triple CD "The Hits of Christmas" is out'n'about now too.

Whats useful about a triple CD set, rather than 3 single CD's for background music, is that you dont end up with 3 versions Jingle Bells, or 3 versions of "Have yourself a merry little Christmas" etc.

Click here for track listing

Quite a good selection of old fav's and newer artists singer newer Christmas songs.

NOTE: I'm not sure if its a national, or a local thing, but I noticed that WhSmiths are doing a 10% off day tomorrow (Thursday), while keeping all their other offers intact (apparently), so, that would mean "Buy 2 chart CD's get £5 off", then 10% off THAT... not too bad...

Now the only thing is...WhSmiths normal price is £14.99....MVC is £11.99.... hmmm choose carefully, depends how much else you're after really.





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