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Professional Mobile Disco & Wedding Disco
thePlinth
Hi there

I thought I’d better hurry up and post before I get deleted!! :-S haha, anyway. I’m looking into doing some DJ-ing on the side as a kind of hobby / special interest. Let me fill you in on me!

I have a love for music. All things musical I love. I don’t restrict my listening to any one particular genre, I’m of the opinion that the music should change to suit the particular audience. So I like to build a collection of different stuff. I did a small party last week. Small Hall, borrowed equipment, 2xActive Speakers (Don’t know wattage, but it was adequate for the occasion. I think the amp on the back had 145w written on it, but that doesn’t seem enough for the amount of volume these things were pumping out. Perhaps it was just the echo-ey old hall!), and a computer. Nothing pro I know!! Anyhow, I enjoyed it so much, and so did the party, as they all were on their feet and dancing by the end, that I have been pouring over the web, especially this forum looking for info on how to get more serious on the matter!

I’d like to keep DJ-ing as hobby. I think you would call it Mobile DJ. Just doing parties and small events in medium community halls. It will just be CD crunching at this stage – you know, disco style, is that ok?

Anyway, I’m from Australia, and can’t seem to get some good pricing on equipment anywhere around town. I’ve also been looking on eBay, but postage is expensive on large bulky items (such as speakers). I noticed a post on speaker building. I reckon that this could be an ok option, although I don’t want to end up spending more this way, than buying a complete speaker.

I really love music, and playing it loud! I’m planning on building a small booth (loved the pictures on a previous post). I guess what I need, is some speakers, amp, mixer and cd decks. I’m on a tight (student) budget. I’ll really look forward to reading your replies!

Sorry if this post was long biggrin.gif
Cheers
Chrispy
Hi Welcome to the forum, we had wondered how long it would be before you got around to posting! tongue.gif

Firstly one of your statements:-

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I don’t restrict my listening to any one particular genre, I’m of the opinion that the music should change to suit the particular audience.


Is spot on, and this is one of the main positive attitudes which makes a good D.J. You are paid to provide a service and this is what you should do, even if it means playing stuff that you wouldn't choose to listen to in your own time, so well done for pointing that out smile.gif .

145W per speaker in a small-ish venue is perfectly loud enough without blasting your audience through the back wall!. Depending on the venues that you intend to work, you may find that this will be all you need, although it is a good idea to buy as loud as you can afford, since P.A systems are like cars - its far better to let them cruise comfortably at a steady level but with plenty of power in reserve for if ever you need it!. If your budget allows then aim for a system with a total power of around 600 - 1000W, would see you through most family occasions.

Using a computer for music is now common place for Mobile D.J's - or at least far more common than it was a few years ago. I am currently in the process of moving my own CD collection over and there are several members here who have been using a laptop or PC for years. Look on our PC & DJ section of the forum for hints and advice about this and Andy (ADS ENTERTAINMENTS) is a good contact for this sort of thing.

I have noticed in other posts from members in Aus / new Zealand that Disco Equipment is very expensive in that part of the World - maybe something to do with the shipping charges as you have mentioned, since it all has to be imported. Certainly the prices do seem to be 1.5 or 2 times more than the same item in the UK sad.gif . I don't export so I can't really help you with this, although maybe another member in Australia could help here?. One idea which can help those starting out, is hire. You mentioned that you hired your P.A (Powered Speakers) is it possible to hire them or other speakers again?, do you have an outlet locally who hires this sort of thing on a regular basis?. It can often be easier to hire the gear as you get booked, but remember to factor in the hire price into your booking fee!. This way you have use of gear without the expense of splashing out in one go to purchase it all. As you become more popular and the work comes in, you can save up from the profit you earn, and purchase each piece of gear as you go along.

You do seem to have a fair idea of what D.J'ing involves and that is a very good start. This forum is full of hints and tips which are useful to both novices and other professionals, and I am sure that you can learn a lot from being here. Its very difficult to put "XX" years experience into one post and nobody can become a D.J overnight. The best way is to ask questions, so if there are any other questions you have, then feel free to post, and don't worry about the length of the post, the more info you can give, then the more likely you are of getting a detailed reply.

I will do some research to see if I can find a mail order dealer for you in Australia and pass any info on to you.

thePlinth
Thanks heaps Chris, and speedy! hahaha

Thanks for the encouragement… don’t be mislead! I’m not an expert! Hahaha, I must say, I may have spent a little TOO long on the net reading, but hey!

You mentioned hiring equipment. This is great idea, and I have thought about it, but unfortunately may not work for me! The speakers I actually used before were “borrowed”. I’m not able to use these on a regular basis though 014.gif . I must say, I reckon even hiring can be a little over priced. I’ve got one hire pack here: “DJ CD Pack $220 – 2 speakers, amplifier, DJ Mixer, microphone, 2 DJ CD players”. This is not to bad I suppose, but for an amateur DJ that would take a fair chunk out of any pay check! Also, most of my upcoming gigs are going to be friends, or friends of a friend. Obviously these are going to be done for little or no payment. I don’t know about you guys but right now I want the experience. My mates certainly aren’t going to shell out the big bucks for one of their mates to crunch CD’s! hahaha

Back to Cab building… if anyway has any experience, expertise in this area, then Please share!

Cheers
kazzachi
Hi plinth and welcome....its the chicken and egg scenario! Have a word with Darryl Hayden from Capitalkaroake.com.au.... although he is mostly to do with karaoke he has been into discos for years and could give you a few pointers as to where to go.
YourBigEvent
Hello Plinth, nice posts, welcome to the forum, and never get down about DJ'ing just Keep it up Plinth
Chrispy
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I’ve got one hire pack here: “DJ CD Pack $220 – 2 speakers, amplifier, DJ Mixer, microphone, 2 DJ CD players”. This is not to bad I suppose


Is that just for one nights hire?? scared.gif - Hell, I'm living in the wrong country!, better pack up my stuff, freight it over and settle in a warmer climate!. At those prices you do get a very raw deal with hire.

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My mates certainly aren’t going to shell out the big bucks for one of their mates to crunch CD’s! hahaha


Maybe not but don't underprice or belittle yourself, if you think that you can do the job and are confident then why undersell?. Okay, we all started by doing freebies for family and friends but don't let it turn into a regular thing, as you gain the experience then make sure that people will pay towards that skill.

You may not be a professional yet, but you do have the right idea, and that can be worth a lot when your just starting out.

Making speakers:- look out for Bass Drivers made by Eminence or Celestion these are some of the most cost effective and excellent quality drivers around thumbup.gif . You will find it cheaper to buy in the actual drivers from another country, since the average weight is around 5 - 7kg each, as opposed to 20 - 35kg for a complete cabinet and this will save a small fortune on postage charges!.

You need to keep all Wattage figures accurate:- if you buy a 200W Bass Driver and a 200W Tweeter it Won't give you 400W handling, it will still only handle a total of 200W. To make a speaker you need to look for the following components:-

Bass Driver - go for a 12" or 15" diameter one if possible. Always look for RMS ratings and 8 ohm impedance.

Tweeter Horn - Avoid Piezo types if you can, and go for a "compression" type horn, these are more robust and give a more cleaner, accurate sound than piezo's.

Crossover - a 2 Way crossover is also required to run the Tweeter. This is a small circuit board which seperates the high frequencies from the music input which then go to the tweeter. Some crossovers also have built in protection, which protects the tweeter in the event of an overload. - do not connect the tweeter directly to the input without a crossover!.
Chrispy
I've found a dealer who can supply Eminence Components for making your own speakers. They also have a limited range of D.J equipment.

Central Musical

Also:-

Click Here - This dealer lists some 2nd hand speakers

You may also find this speaker building project useful:-

Building a P.A Speaker
thePlinth
Thanks for the links Guys and Gals!

The Capitalkaroake.com.au link didn’t seem to work. Doesn’t matter though, the pages that Chris gave me should keep me occupied for quite long enough! The speaker building site looks really really good!

You’re right when you say that hire is a rip off! I tell you, I think I am going into the wrong business! I should be buying equipment for people to hire, not trying to hire it myself! Ahahaha, well you never know, when I build up a bigger kit, buy another one, and another one, and bob’s your uncle! Haha biggrin.gif

The thing I like about building is that you can make it look just the way you want. The part I don’t like about building a custom cab, is the fact that it might be really poor!

Family and friends WILL be how it starts. I’ve really enjoyed reading the posts all over this forum. I think that the AU dollar might have something to do with the extreme prices of new equipment.

I know that some of you might raise an eyebrow at this, but one day I’d like to do a school disco! Haha, I know it will be a while. Gonna need a bigger system, lights, etc. But when I think about it, I revert to my school disco days, bopping on to the charts, the thumping music, it was quite an impacting experience! Hahaha, o dear, it has to be one of the few places you can play a mix of Spice Girls, Backstreet Boys, and NSYC and nobody minds! Well, maybe not quite that extreme! If it has a strong beat, and I can sing along, then I’M THERE!

Cheers
Dj_Kray
Hello and welcome 042.gif it seems like you have the perfect atitude to become a good dj thumbup.gif
C.S
Seems like your future looks bright,just keep gaining the experience biggrin.gif
paula
042.gif Plinth

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Seems like your future looks bright,

You sound like an advert Chris!!!! for Orange 071.gif


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