I'm trying to create a playlist using Music Manager. When I add a file to the playlist, it transfer over as A/B but when I save it and come back to it is says that it's now C/D, when I play it it still plays as A/B but says it's C/D. I've removed and reloaded all the files and the Denon folder, but it's made no difference. This problem doesn't seem to happen if I create the playlist on the 2500. I'm using Version 1.1.1 Build 30903.

Any suggestions

I don't follow your a/b and c/d examples.

There is a new version of music manager 1.1.1.2 which is an improved version of the software - I`ve not got an exact release date for it yet, but will advise all members of the forum as soon as I do. The new software may clear up whatever the issue

Sorry. When I select add to playlist it shows the title and artist in the playlist window as Atomic/Blondie. I then save it and when I come back to it the title artist in the playlist window shows Changes/David Bowie. When I play the song it's still Atomic/Blondie, but the ID3 tag shows Change/David Bowie.

Does that help???

Yes - you're saying that the song that gets played from your playlist is still the same song that you wanted in your playlist, but that the id3 tag stored against that song displays as a different song (perhaps a song which was 1 above, or one below in the playlist). Yes?

A couple of questions:

1) Does this mis-match of displayed id3 tag and song display mismatched on the pc screen only, or on the screen of the 2500 only - or both?

2) Have you used any other pc software to process the files - eg: tag writers/editors, 3rd party bpm calculators, audio level normalising software, topping and tailing software (removing silence from beginning/end of tracks) etc.

3) What is the firmware version of your 2500 (have a track cued up, hold the "preset" button for 2 seconds, turn the parameter knob until "version" appears. it will be a 4 digit number eg: 1100, 1004, 1200 etc.

Gary

In answer to your questions

1 Both

2 MP3 Gain to normalise the tracks and some of the files have been through Tag & Rename

3 I'm working tonight so I'll check and get back to you, but as far as I know it's the most recent, because that's the first thing I did when it arrived.

Thanks

Keith

Keith, when there is a mis-match of Tag and actual title, you will need to create the DB again, which clears that up. Note, your playlists will be lost. There is some unknown bug in the Music Manager that we are now checking. Note, Do not use the "update" function in MM. Did you ?

Yes I have.

So what do I need to do to rectify this problem?

I have already deleted the affected music folder and the Denon folder from the drive. I reinstalled the music folder and then created the database with MM which created a new Denon folder by default. I then create a playlist called Test and transferred three files to it. The artist/title names in the playlist window were correct. I then saved it. I exited and then opened MM and when I clicked on the Test playlist the artist/title was now different. When I played the file it was still the correct file, but wrong tag info.

With regard to Gary's post, the version on 2500 is 1100.

I was looking more closely at the title tags on my files and notice that most of the incorrect ones were a couple of tracks out and that it become worse the closer you got to Z. Could I make a suggestion that the software CANNOT deal with a blank title, so it moves the rest up to fill the space, and that's why the titles are close to being correct and also why they become further away as you move from A-Z.

Just a thought.

Hope it helps.

Also, the scroll speed for me is too slow, but Gary's told me that it's the fastest it can go without blurring. Can I suggest an option so instead of scrolling a letter at a time it can scroll a word at a time, meaning it would effectively scroll faster but without any blurring.

It's possible - Although using the beta of the latest version of MM, I've not managed to get the mis-matched tags problem to show up - either with blank tags or not. Have you run your files through any sort of 3rd party software for normalizing or Toppig'n'tailing (removal of silence from beginning/end of tracks)? etc. Something twhich could/would have re-written the tags?

See if the tagging proglem you're seeing still exists when the latest version of Music manager is made available.



I dont know if word-by-word scrolling would be possible - or indeed easy-on-the-eye as each word would be potentially a different length for example: In "Simply Having A Wonderful Christmas Time" the word lengths (inc spaces) are 7,7,2,10,9,5...meaning that the display (if a scroll word-by-word option were made available) would jump 7 lettets, then another 7 letters (so far, so good) then only 2 letters, then a big 10 letters, then 9 letters and so on. Also the 2500 would need to either store or calculate the jumps eg (7,7,2,10,9,5) somewhere...and also what timing should there be between word displays eg: Display first word for x seconds, then jump 7, then wait for x seconds then jump 2 - or should jumping time be relative to the size of the jump?.

With the scroll speed as it is - its still faster than manually thumbing CD cases, or vinyl boxes for that matter - but I've made a note of both your "blanks" idea, and the scrolling by word idea too.

What about the option of setting the number of characters it moves, say 1, 3, 5, and 7 at the same speed currently available?