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TymmyD

Oct 20 2003, 08:39 PM

I bought one of these over the others purely because you can control it a lot more and change the gobo's and effects the gobo's do, Also i like the fact that you can choose between 7 text's.

It's a very bright laser light at 80mW and on a single beam can burn.

It's bright enough that without smoke you can see the beams as it's lighting up the dust in the air!

I was dissapointed when i found out that the snoopy character is not avaliable as advertised, something to do with copyright, and CLOCK RUNNING is a term for lasers when actually creating the gobos, not a clock.

But i do have more text than advertised.

Also on turning the laser on it somtimes blows the fuses inside, there are 2 main boards for the two shake mirrors and each one has its own fuse, I contacted the manufacturer to be told that They do have a problem with the fuses and are now using higher rating English fuses which have solved the problem,

Since then I have replaced the fuses with 1.25A (1A originals) time delay fuses, Still one has blown, so in goes a 2A time delay fuse, No problem as yet,

Im very happy with the laser and have had a lot of good comments at using it at gigs, especially right at the beginning when everyone arrives and a big WELCOME is on the wall, As time goes on I make this flip, zoom in and out and move,

As i read in another post, you need the right atmosphere to use lasers, you can use this one in different ways, either moving real fast changing gobos, a word on the wall still or doing stuff or a simple cartoon moving back and forth on a wall or ceiling.

Apart from the couple of dissapointments Im well chuffed with it and cant stop playing,(only had it 2 weeks) may b this will ware off.

Conclution: If you got the Wedge- Well recommended!

Dj SBD

Oct 20 2003, 08:58 PM

Cheers, TymmyD for the review,

,brilliant

Well done

Paul Forsyth

Oct 20 2003, 10:53 PM

Great review TymmyD
Not much of a wiz on the lighting front is it easy to use? And what kind of price are these ?
Have been thinking about lazers amongst other things to spend my £ on.
One other question are there any health and safty issues with using these on mobile rigs?

Thanks again for a brilliant write up

Chrispy

Oct 21 2003, 09:01 AM

Best price I can do comes out at £939 + Delivery for the EU Pro laser 2. This price is based on Cheque with order discount.

scotty

Oct 21 2003, 12:33 PM

Can you link these to a DMX setup ? and can you input your own text like 'Happy 18th Birthday Dave' that would be very cool and impressive.

Chrispy

Oct 21 2003, 12:46 PM

No, Sadly if you want to have full programming of text via a computer and customisation then you'll need to budget for around the cost of a small family Hatchback

, or at least well into four figures

.

The PRO2 does have a lot of patterns and 7 built in text slogans but it isn't customisable as far as text goes. They are not DMX linkable, but they can be Master - Slave Linked.

The Pro2 is also extremely powerful at 80mw and therefore great care should be excercised when using to prevent possible eye damage to your audience.

scotty

Oct 21 2003, 03:46 PM

Well at least you can use it to perform laser eye surgery that should bring in the gigs !

Whisky In A Vase

Oct 21 2003, 06:43 PM

£1000 for one light effect that says welcome on the wall. Am I the only one who cannot afford to spend that kind of money.

TymmyD

Oct 21 2003, 07:31 PM

It seems laser technology is very new, that explains the price, Colour also changes the price, to have a blue laser it costs 5X as much!!!!!!!!

Thats a good price that Chris offers, I paid a bit more than that (only a bit)

Most people at parties are blind drunk..........lol So a bit more blindness wont hurt.

On a serious note, looking directly at the beams of the laser does make your eyes go funny, even looking at the gobo's on a wall for a while makes your eyes go funny. For the amount of time I've spent playing I would have thought I'd be blind!!

Like I said if you got the Money, its a good effect.

Chrispy

Oct 21 2003, 07:39 PM

QUOTE

On a serious note, looking directly at the beams of the laser does make your eyes go funny

You should never be looking directly at a 80mw laser for ANY reasons!. Any eye damage that results is not reversible, and no offence, but that is the sort of flippant comment that has in the past, almost got the sale and use of them banned for mobile use. I seriously hope that you are taking more care where your audience is concerned!.

The chance of being blinded by a 20mw or 30mw laser is slim but there is STILL a chance, however I wouldn't take the chance of thinking what damage an 80mw would or could do. Is it worth losing your eyesite over?.

Whisky In A Vase

Oct 21 2003, 08:23 PM

This is what I was thinking Chris. Would the normal £120 a gig mobile DJ carry this sort of light.

Chrispy

Oct 21 2003, 09:03 PM

QUOTE (Whisky In A Vase @ Oct 21 2003, 09:23 PM)

This is what I was thinking Chris. Would the normal £120 a gig mobile DJ carry this sort of light.

I wouldn't invest in one myself, because I fall into that category

, and even though I sell the things for a living, I honestly do believe that a £1000 effect is OTT for the mobile.

Each to their own though, and if a D.J can afford one and they think that it will assist them with getting gigs or providing a better service, then good luck to them. I still always say that there is more to D.J'ing than Flashing Lights. £1000 is a lot of expenditure to claw back though @ £120 a gig as you say.

There is a risk associated with using these products in a non fixed application, and I am a little shocked by "Tymmy's" post above and I am sure that the HSE would take a very dim view of such a sweeping disregard for safety. I have no idea what a compensation claim would be for permanent blindness but I'm sure that its far more than the price of a gig....or the laser itself, so if you use a 80mw laser then I would ensure that your have PLI in place, because it is an additional risk and mistakes and accidents do happen.

I no longer hire out lasers for the same reason, it just isn't worth the risk, especially in inexperienced hands.

As for customisable ways of getting your message across there are far more effective, safe and cheaper ways of doing it. A moving message display will give you hours of message giving - easily customisable to add names, functions, venues as well as advertising your own services, phone number etc etc for around £200. Still cheaper than a laser is the I-Ball which Eskie uses even this will give you around £300 change from the difference between that and a laser.

If your average gig is Friday night in the local WMC, and a Wedding in the Coach and Horses on a Saturday then a 80mw laser isn't for you....a 20mw or 30mw will be more than enough. If you want a way of getting your message across then consider the cheaper option.

Gary

Oct 22 2003, 11:48 AM

Just on the off-chance that anyone needs further justification to point their beams up a bit (Lasers guys...lasers...).

There was a "bit of a hoo har" in a local paper some ten years ago, when 5mw red laser heads were considered pretty cool, when the effects of the laser were focused quite considerably by the "seam" in someones bi-focal glasses, where the thick lense met the thinner lense. The eye damage was permanent, and somehow the "signature" damage that it left was "tell-tale" of laser output.

I dont think that PLI was quite so widely known about then, certainly the disco isnt known about now.

How many of us could accurately say whether there were any bi-focal wearers in our audiences last weekend? or will be this weekend?

TymmyD

Oct 22 2003, 03:35 PM

Why do I feel everyone is getting at me? or just negative thoughts.

Im gunna stick up for it now.

Any bright light source can damage eye sight, (The Sun, fireworks and other effects) I understand not in the same context but still can if you look directly at them can damage your eyesight.

Again Loud music can damage your hearing, How many of you turn up those faders? Ears start to get used to the sound so up goes the volume again.

Many DJ's and clubbers have damaged hearing and alot of DJ's wear earplugs.

The same sort of thing with foggers/strobes they can all have a danger to the audience, so picking on the poor people with bi focal glasses is a one of freak accident, the same with epilepsy or people with asthma or any other problems.

This is why on booking forms you have a option for foggers, strobes, bubbles, snow lasers, to give the option of not having them used at that disco.

There is a danger in everything, even right now if you have been stareing at this screen too long or danger of back injury if your not sitting correctly right now, and I hope your all using wrist supports when typing or wrist strain is round the corner.

An open mind is needed as well as common sence, thats what makes the world go round, and me DJing using my well earn't equipment makes my world ROCK!

It's a wicked effect!!!!

REACH FOR THE LASER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NineLives

Oct 22 2003, 04:01 PM

I think it was the way you wrote one of your posts , you prob didnt mean it to read the way that it did ?

QUOTE

Most people at parties are blind drunk..........lol So a bit more blindness wont hurt.

On a serious note, looking directly at the beams of the laser does make your eyes go funny, even looking at the gobo's on a wall for a while makes your eyes go funny. For the amount of time I've spent playing I would have thought I'd be blind!!

Whisky In A Vase

Oct 22 2003, 06:40 PM

I think you are right Ninelives. Maybe you was joking but as Chris said, it was flippant remarks that nearly got them banned from sale.

Chrispy

Oct 22 2003, 09:15 PM

Bill has hit the nail right on the head....read that part of your post again, and lets pretend that I had written it and you were reading it. What opinion would you reach from how it was worded - would you consider it to be a responsible statement during a safety debate for an effect which if used incorrectly, could maim?.

Because I didn't

Melody_Roadshow

Jan 28 2004, 04:29 PM

As I'm not a lover of smoke i think I'd go for the moving msg.
Can't say " Text your request to ......." with that kinda laser

Do you sell Moving Msg Chris or even know if an old one can be updated?
I have a six foot Data Displays unit which works but needs software which manufacturers no longer support....

kazzachi

Jan 28 2004, 05:15 PM

Hold on...where is this going! If you wanna spend a grand on a laser go for it..... it wont get you any more work on the mobile dj side of things.. but may get you a few quid if you decide to hire it out. There are always safety issues with virtually anything... but its up to the individual if they want to add "potentially damaging" effects to their shows.... Yes loud music can make your ears hurt.. but most of us on here probably play music at an acceptable level.. or at least have the sense to turn things down if they see a punter stick their hands over their ears. No matter what a client puts on their booking form, I would bet that they dont know the full medical history of all of their guests.

As for me, I like to take the responsible approach and I dont include anything in any of my shows that could potentially cause harm. A grand could get you some really good effects..... what is the big thing about lasers anyway? Im talking for an average mobile set up here.. not large full scale productions.

The Spindoctor

Jan 29 2004, 12:37 AM

Awww Kazzzz x I use two green lasers and that is my 'average' set up or maybe I just give value for money LOL

Sin

kazzachi

Jan 29 2004, 12:41 AM

well sin you have got to use something to detract from all those light screens!!! Only joking honey..... I would pay any fee you asked just for the pleasure of your company! xxxx

The Spindoctor

Jan 29 2004, 12:58 AM

Awwwww for you no fee is required..........travel expenses will do

Sin

YourBigEvent

Jan 29 2004, 07:02 AM

There was a night club in Torquay in the mid 80's that used lazers all the time, and that was 20 years ago, I used to point them to a blank wall though, opposite the video wall, now whatever happened to those ?

Chrispy

Jan 29 2004, 08:21 AM

Melody - Text lasers are very expensive - then you often have to hook them up to a PC or laptop to maintain control of them. A basic text laser which is user programmable costs around £2800 - £4000. You can of course get the £1000 EU version but the text on them is very limited and pre-programmed with words like "Welcome".

I'm with Karen, £1000 - or even half of that can get you some pretty impressive lighting these days.

I cleared my last tri-color moving message units via the forum a couple of months ago, and ended up nearly giving them away

. They are very slow sellors and as such I don't plan to re-stock them in the future. The Soundlab units go for around £199 for a three colour unit, or £249 for the mega sized text one which can be seen from a distance. There is also a mini Red display which can be useful simply to advertise your roadshow name and contact details. It's very small but surprisingly powerful - the only drawback is that its limited to 60 characters which isn't much use for long advertising messages but there are 20 programs available so 20x 60 characters

- but they are ideal just to get the basics across. Another advantage is that it is small and freestanding. Cost is around £60 ish.

Here is a picture of the portable red unit - which is useful for most events.

user posted image

chrismk

Jul 31 2004, 04:01 PM

I want a Blue laser for 80 birthday.....

Did a wee bit of research on the net with regards to lasers and you cant just get
a blue laser module, pity would loved to have adapted it somehow, but time is on
our side with China moving at an alarming rate, lets hope they bring out a blue
laser we can all buy before they burn up all the fuel.

Cheers

Kay-jays

Aug 26 2004, 07:47 PM

I would of loved to buy the Pro 2 but didn't have enough money and ended up buying the Pro 4 which is only 30mw and isn't controllable.

I love the effect of lasers and have had comments made quite often about it. It goes down extremly well when I go out as a mobile nightclub.

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