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fenix842
With Christmas coming, and my birthday and graduation already past, I'm looking to buy some new equipment. I was also thinking that becoming a mobile Dj would be a good first job for me.
Aside from training with a "mentor" DJ, what equipment do you think would be necessary to start up as a true mobile DJ?

Thanks a bunch!
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C.S
Cd players or turntables and a mixer would be a good place to start biggrin.gif
Dj SBD
The first equipment I bought was a pair of cd decks and a mixer! For mobile use I'd always use cd decks, as most vinyl (over here) does'nt cover new releases (chart wise), and when they do they expensive (£10 a record, no thanks!!!)

From there I bought the amp/speakers, lights, stands etc..

but this process took me over a year to build up the show, the money came from odd jobs I did with the old man!! biggrin.gif and a few chrismas presents... rolleyes.gif
Chrispy
O.K, let's take one step at a time. Between all of the members on the forum I think that as a community we offer some very good and practical advice. But one thing that we don't know for sure is how good, in practical terms a person is, or, in the case of somebody starting out for the first time, whether they are ready to, or cut out to become a D.J in the first place.

The earlier advice of finding a "Mentor", gives you the advantage that you can experience what being a Mobile D.J involves before actually committing to buying lots of expensive equipment. Starting out (and investing) in the correct equipment is going to cost some $$$'s and in this industry you do need to start out on the correct footing. Basically you need to be sure that D.J'ing is right for you, and you are right for D.J'ing! smile.gif .

We know very little about your experience, if any, and this is where we need to concentrate any advice!. Have you ever attended Weddings, or Family occasions and watched the D.J and what was involved?. Doing Mobile D.J work is a lot different from Mixing at home or in a club, or doing a School Dance for example.

Are you confident about being able to play all types of music?, and perhaps use a microphone in front of 200+ people?. I don't doubt your enthusiasm, or willingness to learn, but a good D.J and reputation is built from experience and not just from a forum or a text book!.

I'm not trying to put you down, or say that you are too young to D.J properly. Quite the opposite. Nobody on this forum wants you to go out unprepared or get a bad reputation just purely because you are inexperienced or ill-advised.

Being a Mobile D.J involves some key factors:-

(1) Playing all types of music for all ages, and having a varied music selection. Doing Mobile work involves playing music that you may not choose to listen to in your own time, or have so far even heard of!. Check out the threads on 70's and 80's music for some examples.

(2) Being able to use a Microphone in front of a large number of people.

(3) Appearing approachable, and outgoing and being able to break the ice, and create a positive atmosphere amongst people you have never previously met (Probably the hardest thing to learn!)

(4) Being able to read the dancefloor - again this comes from experience,a nd enables you to see exactly what is working and what isn't music wise!.

(5) Being Reliable - You can't just decide not to attend a function and let somebody down just because you've been invited to a Friends Party or decide to go out clubbing instead!.

Above all, it's very true when you hear other D.J's stating that a D.J can make or break a Function or party. Take a Wedding Reception for example, a Bad or inexperienced D.J could ruin an otherwise perfect day for the Bride and Groom. In the case of Weddings, the memories of their Wedding Reception will be with them for life. So there is some responsibility which attaches itself to the role of a D.J or Entertainer.

If you have read the above, and it is a good description of you, then you are on your way to becoming a D.J. If its put you off, then perhaps you are not ready yet?.

My own advice, is to go ahead and invest in the equipment that you require to do proper functions and mobile work, but do it properly and get the correct equipment right from the start. Instead of perhaps advertising your services, just concentrate on doing functions for children and those of your own age. This way you will be familiar with the music, and it will allow you to gain a little bit of experience and more importantly build your confidence. Perhaps you could ask to do Disco's at your own schools, or the Junior (Elementary?) Schools around your area?.

I still strongly advise you to gain some professional advice and guideance from a "Mentor" D.J before you start attending Weddings and D.J'ing at Adult Functions on your own.

With regard to running it as a business. This is where the experience comes in!. It is very, very difficult to run a Disco as a Sole Income. Many of the full time professionals on this forum, have themselves run it as a hobby for several years. Most people still only D.J as a part time profession. If you do it correctly then being a D.J will possibly give you a good source of income through school and college and you shouldn't use it as an excuse to prevent you from following a career. You may want to D.J full time now, but try and get some good grades to fall back on, in case you lose interest in it as you get older, or it doesn't work out in the way in which you anticipated, since it can be a very difficult and unpredictable industry!.

Okay, if you've not been put off, or fallen asleep by this point, here is some advice on equipment.

I'm assuming that you already have a form of mixer and turntables?. If so you have got the basics to start out. You may decide to buy a Dual CD Player since on the mobile circuit they are far more practical than Turntables. However, if your material is all on vinyl then you'll probably not benefit from the purchase of a CD Player just yet. If you do start getting a lot of gig's then consider flightcasing your turntables and Mixer along with any other audio equipment that you may buy. Flightcasing isn't cheap, but neither is replacing equipment if it gets damaged!.

Audio:- At least 400W to start off with, but if you can afford to go spend more on a slightly bigger system then do so. Although a total of 500W - 800W should be plenty for the average function. Since you've already bought Equipment from Gemini, you could keep the same theme and consider one of their Amp & Speaker combinations. Their "X2" Amplifier and a Pair of "GSM-1500" Speakers would give you a basic P.A. Alternatively a Gemini "X3" Amplifier and a pair of "GT-3002" speakers would give you a higher power system and may be better if you intend to do larger rooms!.

Another Amp was recently recommended by Jorge (cubanpete41) is called a Pyramid PA1800X - information HERE this is a resonably priced 2x 250W amplifier.

Lighting:-. You will need at least a couple of lighting effects to start off with. Chauvet are very popular effects and manufacture a good range of competively priced units. Their website can be found HERE

It's difficult to recommend products to members in the U.S since I don't know what is or isn't easily available from distributors over there. But from experience I know that Gemini and Chauvet products are worth looking at. As are JBL P.A Equipment, American D.J, Martin and Abstract products. But it does depend on prices and avilability locally to you.

If you need advice on anything before you buy feel free to ask. In the meantime, asking questions and reading post's is a good way to get at least a basic idea of what being a Mobile D.J involves.
C.S
Excellent post Mr P! Would just like to add that an ability to LISTEN is also neccessary both to advice and your instincts. tongue.gif
Chrispy
QUOTE (djcs59 @ Oct 5 2003, 09:15 PM)
Excellent post Mr P! Would just like to add that and ability to LISTEN is also neccessary both to advice and your instincts. tongue.gif

Absolutely Chris, I just wish I could get one of my current Trainees to LISTEN to what he's being told, rather than just humour me, and then go on to do exactly how he THINKS it should be done!.

Ever get the feeling that with some people that you are wallbash.gif ??? sad.gif - still, you can lose the battle & still win the war smile.gif
cmj
I'm in the fortunate position that my 'trainee' actually listens to me. I feel that some folk (usually punters) feel mobile DJ'ing is the same as putting music on the house. Trying to get your trainees to look past this is quite a big thing for me, 9 times out of 10, punters dont want to hear the latest trance from Dance Anthems!!! wallbash.gif
C.S
Worst of all is that we were probably just the same when we started out! fear.gif
Chrispy
QUOTE (djcs59 @ Oct 6 2003, 07:51 AM)
Worst of all is that we were probably just the same when we started out! fear.gif

I Wasn't.....I was a good trainee rolleyes.gif smartass.gif 095.gif
C.S
I dont remember!
The Spindoctor
I came into it knowing absolutely everything!! (But did'nt we all when we were young) ??

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paula

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I just wish I could get one of my current Trainees to LISTEN to what he's being told,

Your not scary enough Chris! You need one of them looks that kill and quickly!

I was Trained on looks that could kill and it worked fear.gif Well I knew I'd be making tea for the rest of my life if I didnt listen! fear.gif

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Worst of all is that we were probably just the same when we started out! 


I Wasn't.....I was a good trainee   

095.gif Heh heh me too, but training on fixing things went out the window! Im still not to be trusted with a soldering iron 188.gif
Chrispy
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Im still not to be trusted with a soldering iron


Funny you should say that! - Wasn't the great fire of London started by a baker called Paula?? fear.gif ,

Let's not have history repeating itself! smile.gif

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Your not scary enough Chris! You need one of them looks that kill and quickly!


Nah, I am too soft, but i'm also fair. I praise him when he does well, and he tells me to let him know if he's not doing something right. Then when I do point out something wrong, I get accused of "getting at him" - oh well, maybe Shaun would be a better trainee after all wallbash.gif
paula
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and he tells me to let him know if he's not doing something right. Then when I do point out something wrong, I get accused of "getting at him"

Until you get that fist in your face your not getting at him! But does he really want to be a dj? would he talk like that to an employer if he was learning a trade?

Sometime you need to be taught the hard way!

Send him off to work with Dan I think he'll come back on bended knees dont you? 071.gif
Chrispy
Yeah I think Dan would either kill or cure him 071.gif

I'm reluctant to give up on him, since he has got the makings of a good D.J and a hell of a lot of potential. The problem is that he's also just starting to do gigs himself and has got some gigs coming up at a local pub, where I know they'll verbally tear him to bits if he gets it wrong fear.gif . I've subtly tried to tell him that he's not really ready for Pub Gigs yet. but does he listen??. no! - a typical stubborn Teenager.

I agree with Paula, and he may have to learn the hard way before he starts to listen to what he's being told. His problem is mainly lack of concentration and Mic technique. All of this will come in time, but he's rushing ahead and not listening to what he's been told. Maybe he may learn a bit from working on his own, he's already admitted that he's worrying so much trying to impress me or Richard, that he's losing concentration and hence making silly mistakes.

For what it's worth Paula - you frightened him to death at the PLASA - maybe I should send him out with you and Karen! 221.gif
paula
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The problem is that he's also just starting to do gigs himself and has got some gigs coming up at a local pub, where I know they'll verbally tear him to bits if he gets it wrong  . I've subtly tried to tell him that he's not really ready for Pub Gigs yet.

See thats what I was sort of thinking about in Dans post on the weekend, he made it sound like that to start off in pubs is the first and lowest but I think if your gonna start off in a pub then you need plently of knowledge, I was beginning to think I have worked back to front!

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For what it's worth Paula - you frightened him to death at the PLASA - maybe I should send him out with you and Karen!

Eh? 533.gif I didnt even speak to him.....maybe I have that look that can kill then 188.gif

Dj_Kray
QUOTE (paula @ Oct 6 2003, 03:41 PM)


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For what it's worth Paula - you frightened him to death at the PLASA - maybe I should send him out with you and Karen!

Eh? 533.gif I didnt even speak to him.....maybe I have that look that can kill then 188.gif

Yeah you scared me off too fear.gif tongue.gif
Chrispy
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Eh?  I didnt even speak to him.....maybe I have that look that can kill then


You didn't speak to me either 014.gif and you frightened me too
paula
Guys! I cant beleive my eyes......how could I possibly scare 3 people in such a short time.

I cant be that bad afterall Mike & Gary lived to tell the tale....and Andy the guy that followed me round all day......and I mean ALL DAY! biggrin.gif

ever seen a walking bush...be afraid
C.S
Let the guy learn by his mistakes! Might bring him down to earth with a bump and maybe he will become humble tongue.gif And Paula ,i find it a bit strange that you didnt realise that you would be making the tea for the rest of youur life no matter what you do! smile.gif There see guys she dont scare me and i am only 3 thousand miles away! scared.gif
Dj SBD
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Nah, I am too soft, but i'm also fair. I praise him when he does well, and he tells me to let him know if he's not doing something right. Then when I do point out something wrong, I get accused of "getting at him" - oh well, maybe Shaun would be a better trainee after all


cheer's, shame it's a long way to go 221.gif

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Guys! I cant beleive my eyes......how could I possibly scare 3 people in such a short time.


fear.gif u scared me too fear.gif ,lol, only joking Paula. You were'nt that bad, for the 5 seconds you said hello tongue.gif tongue.gif rolleyes.gif


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I'm reluctant to give up on him, since he has got the makings of a good D.J and a hell of a lot of potential. The problem is that he's also just starting to do gigs himself and has got some gigs coming up at a local pub, where I know they'll verbally tear him to bits if he gets it wrong


My first Pub night went really well, The lager louts like their fottball tunes so threw a few in here and their, so went sweet as a nut!

I personally learned more on my own than with another DJ. I got over my mic troubles just by plucking the courage and taking the attitude of, whats the worst that could happen! and luckily nothing did, so now no probs biggrin.gif


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