Im having trouble, playing a copying. my karaoke disks, i have one full set up with all the original disks and i want to make a set from this for another set up, just karaoke, im copying them and trying to play them in a single drawer JVC Karaeoke player, when i go to play them, it doesnot even want to know half of them and the other half are not clear at all, so im not sure what i am doing wrong.

If anybody has any ideas please let me know

Cheers

This problem is well documented and you aren't the only one! - The JVC Players have always had an issue with reading CDR Disc's. The problem seems random, you could have one player that plays them fine and other player that won't play them at all .

Some people find that changing their brand of CDR Disc works, other people never find a solution. Looks like you've dropped unlucky this time . For the cost of discs nowadays, I would try changing the brand, and perhaps burning at a slightly lower speed. Other than that I can't really suggest a solution.

Your gonna run a karaoke purely on copyied disc's?
Good luck to you!
I've been to a karaoke where the kj never had one original with them in fact I dont even think they owned any originals, and the performance and quality was extremly poor, missing graphics ect! thats even if the disc would load in the first place.
I have never tryed to copy a disc but I have had some given to me my first was a couple of years ago that played fine to begin with but now it is extemly poor and no longer included in my track listings, another one was given to me not so long ago which was purely copyied for me as the orignal disc was damaged, it plays in one player but not the other! so I doubt I'll even ever use it
(disc juggler was used)

I've heard another kj was turned away by the landlord of a pub for also running there show with copyied discs!

Apart from it being illegal, is it worth it?
Some disc's are not as expensive as others to buy in fact some of them have come down in price since ek reduced there range, and you can get some deals via sttw for the most requested ones you need, update with ezh insted of sf or have a look out on ebay!

Best solution - buy a 2nd set, totally different from the first set you've got.

Take whichever discs you think you'll need to each setup...younger crowd, older crowd etc...

(You'll need two discs containing "I Will Survive" of course...)

Highlight if you really want to read!


On the moral side of 'back-ups'....PLEASE BE VERY CAUTIOUS!!!!!!

OK - for HOME USE ONLY RECORDING (LOL) Always remember these 3 tips:-

1) Record (rip) the disc at a very low speed (4).
2) Burn (write) at a very low speed (4).
3) Buy originals - never copy a copy!!!!

I agree with the tips mentioned, but if the blank discs you are using are ok for music / normal recording - then I would presume that the cdr's are ok for CD+G songs.

The 'Text' is inbedded as subcode into the music. That's why you need to 'rip' the songs slowly, and 'burn' slowly - to stop graphic break-up.

Some more modern CDR recorders are better in handling this - but as mentioned before - the PLAYERS are not all reliable.

Also - the software you use? Are you ripping tracks or creating an 'image' of the disc?
Images are a better way of 100% reproduction.

Agreed!

As you might have suspected from me, I did mean the comment somewhat tongue in cheek.

You've only got to look at the top of this post to see what sorts of problems a person could have when using (cough) "backups" of their originals.

Theres obviously a grey area about taking copies, or compilations of original CDs, Vinyls, or CDGs' that you own, rather than taking out the originals themselves.

A home-burnt CD of 20 CD singles which the owner has done to save space at gigs is one thing. That person then selling copies of that CD to a mate, is another...

Theres a difference here!

That's also why I said be Cautious!


I Karaoke as well as DJ - only about 20-30% of the time........but I use ORIGINALS!

Entertainment at it's best - professional and 100% original!

I've spent on average more than 8k on my disc's and yes I've been outdone by some so called pofessional with a copy'd load of disc's from a mate including the downloadable vcd's or whateve!

Yes - copied VCD type downloaded karaoke songs are rubbish - they jump, are poor in quality - I totally agree with Paula on that one!!!!!

I would like to add - I have not yet spent 8k on CD+G discs - yet. But I respect Paula's view on this. Others may not, but if you look at all the evidence - being undercut in business is one thing - but using snide discs of a poor quality will only, in time, ruin the reputation of the other local entertainers.

Look at PCDJ combined with Kazza P2P software.

I use and love PCDJ (FX and Pro), but I know a number of DJ's who ONLY use a PC system full of copied music.

(In the real world terms - that's an out of court settlement of £1000 per song - if caught, or 'bubbled on!!!)

No Paula you were so blinded by it you 'thought' it was the ladies. or was it Gary who was in the ladies thinking it was the gents??

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Paula, I don't think anybody is condoning it!, certainly not me who has to make a living trying to flog originals on to you lot with deep pockets and short arms!

However, I don't think that by ignoring it, that the problem will go away, suffice to say that there are people reading this, certainly a percentage of 600 members, who are using a combination of copied discs and originals. I know of at least one member who has posted the fact that he uses NOTHING but downloaded MP3's.

Like you, i'm not happy about it!, not only because I also have to buy disc's myself and compete with other local D.J's who don't have this expense, but because I actually sell the originals as well . I know of at least one other (non dj) forum, which allows complete copies of mastermix CD's on MP3 to be sold for £50 - thats around 200 discs worth, and well over £3000 worth of material, for around what a round of Drinks at the Plasa Bar would cost! . People are always going to be tempted whilst the supply is there and its human nature for people to want to save a few £££'s. However if Mastermix don't seem concerned about it then why should we?.

Nobody is saying that it is right, I certainly have lost a lot of business down to it and continue to do so, how can I compete at £20 a disc when the pirates are selling the entire collection for just over double that?. However the companies are not doing any favours - 15 years ago promo stuff dropped through your letter box, free, D.J's were just that - a means of promoting new material - nowadays we are simply fuel for their Porsches, somebody woke up one morning and thought why give all this stuff to D.J's for free, they HAVE to HAVE the latest music, and lots of it, so lets sting them. Nowadays you pay a lot of money for 10 - 15 tracks of "New material" most of which will never get played because it's crap!.

Nobody is listening to the D.J's anymore - Radio Stations are the main area which the record companies supply the promo material to. Yet who is in the best position to judge the audience reaction to a new track?. The D.J with 600 people on the dancefloor who will either vote with their feet, or inform the D.J of their feelings for the new track! - or the Radio Presenter, sat in a windowless studio 60 feet up in a towerblock, who can't see Joe Bloggs sat in his car in a traffic jam yelling "This song is " into his radio, before re-tuning to "XXXX f.m" .

I am at this point, considering changing all my original material from disc to MP3 on a laptop to make finding / playing tracks easier. I have my doubts about this technically, but what about morally??, does this make me a cowboy?, or wrong?, or any less of a D.J than the one struggling up 3 flights of stairs with 7 boxes of CD's?. I know of several other D.J's - perhaps more, who have already done this and are using music from a laptop?. How do we discriminate between those who simply burn an Mp3 from an original disc for use on a laptop, and those who buy Karaoke Greats from a market stall for 50p?, can we discriminate? the law says that doing both is wrong!.

Most of my CDs are copies - but I do have all the originals.

I take copies with me for 2 reasons -

1) I don't need to take so many discs with me
2)I don't need to worry as much about them being stolen as they are just copies.

In my view this is legit.

Wow,, I have just read all the replies, definatly a heated thread, and i can understand the issues of all the members who have added to this.

However, I own the discs that i intend to copy, so legally, i cant see a problem. As long as i can produce these discs if asked then i have no problem.

I think there is alot of people making copies of there collection out there not only karaoke, just to secure the operation of the disc, as they do get a big of a hammering.

Chris i did try some different CDR's and it did make a big difference, this seems strange but technology is.

Thanks for all your comments it has given me alot to think about