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Chrispy
Here is the type of playlist I dread receiving, a blow for blow account, track for track of exactly what the Bride & Groom want, and with no flexibility for their Guest's requests, or taking into account if that selection of music doesn't work!

Further to our conversation yesterday, please find our playlist attached. Also a running order for the day to give you an idea of timings.

Our first dance is Gorecki by Lamb. We will bring a copy of the CD if you do not have a copy of this.

As you will see from the running order, you are on in two sessions. We would like you to play two CDs that we will provide on the night in the first session; and then as much as possible from the playlist in the second session, running chronologically from the 60s through the night. We trust this is OK with you.



Dj_Kray
Where is the playlist? huh.gif
YourBigEvent
Got excately the same coming up again (also see last weeks gigs). The guy even wanted me to make a copy of Wonderful Tonight by Eric Clapton and send it to him to make sure it is the correct version, then he changed his mind and thought I could turn it into an mp3 and e.mail it to him. He then wanted to meet me, on either a Friday or Saturday evening because it was easier for him !!. He has told me excatelty what records to play and when. A complete censored.gif I tried explaining that the disco will not start at excately 7.30pm, even if it does there will not be many in the room. But obviously he knows best. After all he has probably been to at least 3 weddings in the last 2 years, and I don't do any !!Don't you feel sometimes like saying censored.gif 363.gif It is the ONE thing that makes me so 188.gif
Gary
QUOTE (Dj_Kray @ Sep 3 2003, 04:23 PM)
Where is the playlist? huh.gif

The playlist is currently doing a poor job of keeping a small rock warm and dry, at the bottom of The River Congleton. tongue.gif

Such lists should be refered to (whislt talking to the host) as "A rough guide, depending on the audience". Theres no good in playing 80s music at 9:05 if the punters wanted it at 8:00pm.

The only theory about playing certain music at certain times, is that old age pensioners might not last the night until midnight or 1am...so play their music early... playing younger clubber music early gives younger clubbers a good reason to disappear from your gig earlier on, enabling them to "catch" entry into the local dive-bar before the bouncers start getting fussy.

Chrispy
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is that old age pensioners might not last the night


Yes, i've had some audiences like that...where i'm left wondering whether its worth adding a defib unit to my first aid kit smile.gif . Some Xmas gigs I daren't play "Last Christmas" in case the audience take it personally.

The playlist is too long to post here - 400+ songs, not sure if they expect me to be booked all week 533.gif . The interesting part is going to be the first half of the Evening. For the 1st 2 hours+ they want the same 1 cd played continuously. Given the fact that there is only 10 tracks on there, they are going to need more. When I metnioned this to them they said, No just loop the cd - i.e the same 10 tracks played continuously for 2 hours+ until the buffet censored.gif . Hmmm, must be like working in Tesco.

Then I have to play the "Playlist" track by track, the first few tracks aren't bad...i.e all 60's, then all 70's..then it merges into a "free for all" which has no structure at all. For instance, Bill Haley followed by the corrs, followed by Moterhead!!!! wacko.gif , and they are adamant (not Adam Ant - thankfully) that they want it playing in THAT order, and there is no flexibility of deviation whatsoever, and no provision for their 300+ guests to make THEIR requests.

Some couples just want a kick up the bloody censored.gif
YourBigEvent
Chuck it ontop a MD and take a personal MD player along !!
I had excately the same a couple of years ago, but mine was worse still, it was to the SECOND. The list read like this

7.30.00-Careless Whisper-George Michael-4.32
7.34.32-Weve Only Just Began-Carpenters-3.36
7.38.04 etc etc etc
12.28.00 blar blar blar-2.00.00
12.30.00 finish

No time for talking or eating !!

The groom had his version of the list and knew where we were in the list all night and kept coming up to me and checking !!

I bet NOBODY can beat that !!
Dukesy
A Jukebox, a Jukebox, my kingdom for a Jukebox.

Ah - PCDJ.......WInamp........Traktor........OTS..........

Ah - my 363.gif can take 20p......thanks sir - that'll be £ 80.00 for the 400 songs.

My total fee for the night sir? Just add £500 to the above fee!!!!

What do people want, eh?!
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Peteee
We get this all the time.
We encourage requests
We tell clients that a play list is a useful guide to us
We accept it as a guide only and not to try to write the night up a
Specific tracks are always subject to availability anyway.
We had a dip stick supply two cDr's for the whole night once and insisted on playing it in order.
We refuse to cover the gig on those terms wacko.gif
Ian Stewart
i do send a request list, and ask them to list 12-15 songs that I guarentee to play, that all.

I would tactfully suggest that the bride & groom find themselves another DJ, If i got some of the playlists you guys are getting.
martink
Chris have you got back them yet? I'm intrested to see how this one pans out!

Following on from this, at which point would each of us say "no, this just isn't going to work. You gonna have to have a little more faith in professional judgemnet, or I won't be able to do the booking?"
C.S
I do things slightly differently, i arrange a meeting with the b+g a week or two in advance and discuss with them any special requests they want, i explain that i have done this before and that i can do their requests but on the whole i read crowds well and will play to them.If they do not accept this then i suggest they use someone else. I do perhaps 15 to 20 mobile gigs a year, 12 of them weddings the rest of the year i club ,and being in a small town i have a good reputation so luckily if they want me then i decide the music! biggrin.gif
YourBigEvent
Normally I would go the gig either but most of these seem to be a my hotels that I work for otherwise yes, I would tell them where to go !!
C.S
Remember if the hotel are selling you then their performance reflects on you, and if the food\service is crap then you will be associated to that. 042.gif Personally i would ring the b+g myself.You live in Torquay! hotels wilderbeast,hanging gardens of babylon,BASIL! biggrin.gif
YourBigEvent
Have you sunstroke ?
Gary
QUOTE (Chris_Pointon @ Sep 4 2003, 09:08 AM)
The playlist is too long to post here - 400+ songs

The interesting part is going to be the first half of the Evening.

For the 1st 2 hours+ they want the same 1 cd played continuously. Given the fact that there is only 10 tracks on there, they are going to need more. When I metnioned this to them they said, No just loop the cd - i.e the same 10 tracks played continuously for 2 hours+ until the buffet censored.gif . Hmmm, must be like working in Tesco.

Then I have to play the "Playlist" track by track, the first few tracks aren't bad...i.e all 60's, then all 70's..then it merges into a "free for all" which has no structure at all. For instance, Bill Haley followed by the corrs, followed by Moterhead!!!! wacko.gif , and they are adamant (not Adam Ant - thankfully) that they want it playing in THAT order, and there is no flexibility of deviation whatsoever, and no provision for their 300+ guests to make THEIR requests.

With over 400 songs in their playlist Chris, you've got 'em

400 songs, at an average of 4mins per song is 1600 mins (or 26 hours). Put it to them that you're obviously going to have to prune the list, and say that the best way of doing so, is to prune the list going by the audiences requests and reactions to the songs already played/playing.

Otherwise, your going to get to the end of the evening and still have over 20 hours of unplayed list.

As always, my suggestion for when restrictions are applied to the DJ, the music policy, volume etc. Tell the audience - en mass -. Select the words carefully, but in essence tell them that "Unlike a normal show, every single tune that you'll be hearing tonight, is from xxxx's list, which he's asked us to play from strictly in the order that he's written it, without deviation. You might get one frown/cringe, and admittedly thats could be from the list-writer himself, but you'll get 299 understanding minds/souls too.

Why not distribute copies of the playlist around the function room/venue prior to the audiences arrival...again indicating that the host has supplied the list and wants the playlist order maintained regardless...

Also, why not mention to people that, early on in the evening they might like to mark on the list which songs they will visit the bar and toilets during - and which song they'll go home on... biggrin.gif



Chrispy
QUOTE (martink @ Sep 4 2003, 10:41 AM)
Chris have you got back them yet? I'm intrested to see how this one pans out!

Following on from this, at which point would each of us say "no, this just isn't going to work. You gonna have to have a little more faith in professional judgemnet, or I won't be able to do the booking?"

I've already (Subtly) pointed out that this is their first Wedding and I have done over 2000 over the years, and part of my service is benefitting from the experience gained over the years. I also pointed out that the distribution of request slips and Audience participation is again free and all part of the service (hint).

Their reply was that their 300 and odd guests are all into exactly the same music as them (Must be like the DJ Version of Village of the damned fear.gif ) and won't want to make any requests. I've already made up my mind that the bride is a selfish, spoiled woman who always gets her own way - her finance' was receptive to my ideas and suggestions but I got the impression that she stamped her foot and was running things HER way.

Most of their main requests are not a problem, it just needs a bit of structuring, all 70's together, all 80's together etc, as any D.J knows its difficult to follow a slow RNB track with a 70's rock classic, then back to a chart hit, especially at a Wedding, when trying to control a dancefloor. The idea of one CD playing for 2 hours is stupid, and at best will make it look very unprofessional. There are going to be around 50 - 60 kids there, so I even pointed out (Karens Idea) that we even offer Childrens Entertainment for the 1st 45 mins to 1 hour whilst the Adults chat, drink etc but even that offer fell on deaf ears.

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I do things slightly differently, i arrange a meeting with the b+g a week or two in advance and discuss with them any special requests they want


Yes, and that idea is okay, although I do by default cover 4 counties since the local bookings (as i've mentioned before) do only fetch around £80 - £100 per night! mad.gif . So I tend to cover the more lucrative city centre area's and down into Derbyshire, Sheffield, Manchester etc and logistically it would be impossible for me to do the 100 - 200 mile round trip for each "chat" if asked by everybody who booked me, and given the cost involved, I may as well be doing the £80 / night gigs locally!. I never refuse the request, if a Bride and Groom wish me to visit or meet at the venue prior to the actual event, but I don't actively push a meeting unless its requested. Luckily the majority of my work is from word of mouth so most customers have seen me previously and know how the event is "managed" entertainment wise!.




DJ Spinko
Chris,
I can only wish you good luck with this one, it sounds a candidate for the 'gig from hell' thread.
I do think like you that some re-structuring is needed, you can still use the songs in the list, just in a better order.
Spinko
Gary
QUOTE (ADS Entertainments @ Sep 4 2003, 09:28 AM)

I had excately the same a couple of years ago, but mine was worse still, it was to the SECOND. The list read like this

7.30.00-Careless Whisper-George Michael-4.32
7.34.32-Weve Only Just Began-Carpenters-3.36
7.38.04 etc etc etc
12.28.00 blar blar blar-2.00.00
12.30.00 finish

No time for talking or eating !!

The groom had his version of the list and knew where we were in the list all night and kept coming up to me and checking !!


I would have been tempted to stick the pitch up by a moderate 5-10% for the whole night.

This little rouse, plus the fact that the actual usable length of a track (before the fade) is never as long as the CD player says that it is. together with a few extra seconds "saved" per song as you crossfade one into the other, should throw his timings out by a couple of songs worth per hour - giving you a gap at the end of the night of maybe 5~10 songs...

After the first hour the groom would have lost faith in his timings and would probably have just given you a comment of "oh whatever"

Eskie
For someone as pedantic as this groom sounds, he'd probably have accused ADS of not playing the whole song of the requests that he'd chosen 1087.gif
YourBigEvent
I actually got around it by telling him that people were asking for requests and as they were not dancing to Coldplay/Ash/Hendrix could I stick some requests on, he, or rather the bride agreed with me, I think it was all his playlist, and from then on all the songs were 'requested', and the floor was full.
I actually met the bride and groom at a function, which was originally booked at thier wedding, and he was a complete bore and she was wild, ending up stripping off and going for a swim in the pool at 2am.
Eskie
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she was wild, ending up stripping off and going for a swim in the pool at 2am.

so she's the avatar girl! tongue.gif
C.S
Yes Ads of course i have sunstroke i live beyond the artic circle, i guess things function a little differently outside of the uk, i am just carefull with my reputation, i have survived in this branch for 30 years because of that rolleyes.gif
Cheezy
If you are forced to play the play list from hell, I would cover up my road show name. It least any future clients wouldn't know who the hell it was that bored them for 4 hours! 533.gif
YourBigEvent
I don't advertise on my kit. biggrin.gif
martink
ADS, your guy sounds like an obssesive out of High Fidelity.
YourBigEvent
More like something from the muppetts !!
Gary
QUOTE (Cheezy @ Sep 4 2003, 01:16 PM)
If you are forced to play the play list from hell, I would cover up my road show name. It least any future clients wouldn't know who the hell it was that bored them for 4 hours! 533.gif

Someone who also DJ'd for the old agency I was with used to keep some rivals cards for that very purpose... 221.gif

It sort of went hand in hand with the game of taking down all the rivals business cards from the memo/information boards in village halls etc... biggrin.gif
YourBigEvent
Gary, Thiose were the day, hunting out and taking (pretending you wanted a disco) all your rivals business cards from chip shop notice boards, post office windows etc, forgotten I was a master at that, or finding out where he gig was and ringing him up prentending to be the punter and cancelling him, then turning up yourself at the gig. (I never did this of course biggrin.gif )
Dukesy
Chris - the other way of looking at it is like this.....

If you have all the songs listed - great.

Now, if we say that approximately 20 songs are to a CD - about an hour's play, thats 80 songs for 4 hours.

OK - tell them you can play the top 80 songs in the order that they want - with a guest request reference of 320 songs available to play (from their list).

Either way - it's their music, have an easy night!!!!!!!

If, however, on the night, you play a song not listed - and everybody is dancing - wow - you're the man! notworthy.gif
But if on the other hand....................... thumbdown.gif

It's a doddle! 042.gif
Chrispy
I really think that i've reached that point of the week, with such a backlog of stuff to be done that i've given up caring....so just bear with me a sec....


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!

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Thats better!. Now where is that bottle of whisky! pepsi.gif
Gary
QUOTE (ADS Entertainments @ Sep 4 2003, 09:03 PM)
Gary, Thiose were the day, hunting out and taking (pretending you wanted a disco) all your rivals business cards from chip shop notice boards, post office windows etc, forgotten I was a master at that, or finding out where he gig was and ringing him up prentending to be the punter and cancelling him, then turning up yourself at the gig. (I never did this of course biggrin.gif )

A old friend of mine (he's only 30 but I mean "old" in that I havent seen him for ages) went one step better than removing cards from all the usual places..

Years ago, he used to work in the only printing shop in the town. All the usual DJ's would put their business card work through his shop. He would print their 500 cards for them, with all the details perfectly reproduced...

...and then print another dozen for himself with slight adjustments to the telephone number. EG: 01433 342986 would become 01433 342896.

In case you havent already guessed, he would swap any real business cards he saw pinned up anywhere (and he had a few "adjusted" disco cards for around a dozen of the rival roadshows), and would swap it.

He used to really enjoy seeing rivals dummy cards pinned up in venues where he knew the rival had played in, since he switched the cards. The rivals obviously just see "their" card from afar, and dont bother looking really closely.
C.S
What a nice friend!


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