brianmole 0 Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 When I mix my music, I notice every now and then my ears ring at the end of a night. Not good, this is permanent ear damage. So, I have just purchased a couple of Alpine Music Safe Earplugs as recommended by the Don't lose the music campaign. These have arrived, they seem quite comfortable, and attenuate Mrs Mole and the kids very well, but I will be trying them out on the mobiles next weekend and reporting back here. At £12.75, they did not break the bank. They are re-useable, cleanable, and they have 2 different levels of attenuation by means of different inserts, and come in a handy little pouch. I will be testing them with my Sony MDR-V700 headphones. Link to post Share on other sites
WOODYO 0 Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 My hearing has definitely suffered over the years . Look forward to your report Brian. Woody Link to post Share on other sites
mikeee 0 Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Brian, ringing in the ears when the sound goes off at the end of the night is a sign the system isn't set up right / running far to loud for the venue. ..playing all the hits for you... ....whether you may be.... Why can't I see what i going on??? Link to post Share on other sites
AJS Mobile Disco 0 Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Pardon http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/headphone.gif AJ's Mobile Disco Ryedale North Yorkshire PLI and PAT equipment Link to post Share on other sites
YourBigEvent 0 Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 QUOTE Brian, ringing in the ears when the sound goes off at the end of the night is a sign the system isn't set up right / running far to loud for the venue. Or there is a fire http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/tongue.gif .....but what do I know ? Your Big Event Office:01803 813540 Direct: 0797 0717 448 e.mail:info@yourbigevent.co.uk Link to post Share on other sites
brianmole 0 Posted March 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 QUOTE Brian, ringing in the ears when the sound goes off at the end of the night is a sign the system isn't set up right / running far to loud for the venue. I get your point, but I am careful on output levels, so not necessarrrilllly so, although I agree when I am working/visiting a club where the sound pressure levels are far greater.. I use probably too much volume on my headphones when I mix tunes, which is the primary reason, but add to this 4 hours of party, it all adds up to sore ears OCCASIONALLY. And once is too many times, hence why I am taking advice & precautions. Link to post Share on other sites
bluejools 0 Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 i can see you now ear defenders in headphones on......... ....cranking up the volume to the cue as you cant quite make it out anymore http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/071.gif hope it works for you, certainly eases the wifes snoring http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites
brianmole 0 Posted March 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 and how do you know about my wifes snoring? http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/laugh.gif Link to post Share on other sites
Dynamicdiscos 0 Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Do these ear protectors eliminate http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/pooh.gif karaoke singers? Why don't we start making hellium filled bubble wrap?<P> It would help keep postage costs down. Link to post Share on other sites
paula 0 Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Nothing eliminates Karaoke singers http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/wacko.gif Link to post Share on other sites
RobbieD 0 Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 I've been using something very similar when in clubs (as a customer or working)for about 3 years now, since I became aware that such things existed. They work great, and actually help you hear better - it's a strange effect, but suddenly you can hear people around you talking (well shouting in to each others ears) clearly and understand what they are saying. I also find I hear more detail in the music. As soon as I leave the club, I pop them out, and I have no "temporary threshold shift" (you know, the effect where everything sounds quiet after leaving a club). Mine are sold as musicians plugs, and give an even 20dB of attenuation across the whole range. they cost around £20 with delivery. The only problem with mine is that they have clear plastic tubes that extend a little out side my ears, and when I put my headphones on over them, the headphones push them about which makes them a little uncomfortable. I have also tried "in ear" monitors, and they are great (the ear pieces that you see pop starts wearing). They give a similar attenuation, and act as headphones without anyone seeing that you are wearing phones. However they do make you feel isolated (as you can't hear the room acoustics) and were hard to put in and pull out for the occasional listen to the "real" sound. My feeling was that they would be best for club work, but as the majority of my work is mobile, I couldn't justify spending around a couple of hundred pounds on them. The one most important bit of advice I would give to anyone starting out as a club DJ is protect your hearing. Once it's gone, it's gone. Link to post Share on other sites
C.S 0 Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 Way way too late for me i am afraid http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/014.gif I will try anything,once! The Cornish will arise again ! Manager of the Andy Harris Fan Club. Keep pasties Cornish Link to post Share on other sites
High Fidelity 0 Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 QUOTE Way way too late for me i am afraid PARDON http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/stupid.gif Quitting Smoking & Drinking doesn't make you live longer It just feels like it. Link to post Share on other sites
Dynamicdiscos 0 Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 I have always been a little DEAF since I was a kid I had adenoids out and gromits put in to try and fix it. My biggest problem is I don't hear low frequencies too well, I can feel it and boy can I feel it when we get the cars park up at the back of our house with their sub woofers going. I actually find it quite painful to listen to. It's the same with noise cancelling headphones they are really painful. Also when I talk to people I find it really difficult to hear everything when it's a male voice speaking. Womens voices are much easier to hear as they have much more treble. I have learn't to account for it when I do my sound checks but it can really bug me sometimes. Has anyone else ever had this problem? Why don't we start making hellium filled bubble wrap?<P> It would help keep postage costs down. Link to post Share on other sites
brianmole 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 OK, they are a little uncomfortable as they do protrude a bit from my ears, so mixing with headphones was not ideal. I tried them on for an hour on Saturday, and I had to take them out to hear treble properly, so I gave up. I guess they may be better in a club where the levels are much higher. Back to the drawing board, will try different ones. Link to post Share on other sites
DJ SPARKO 0 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Look forward to your report brian i also get this ringing/throbing sensation after (trying) to mix in my spare time and after a function. still learning, still experiencing, still dj,ing Link to post Share on other sites
Digital discos 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Brian....You shouldn't need ear plugs http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/fear.gif Just get yourself a quality pair of headphones which will eliminate outside noises then you don't need the headphones out up as loud.... Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_Kray 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 QUOTE (Digital discos @ Apr 21 2005, 09:57 PM) Brian....You shouldn't need ear plugs http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/fear.gif Just get yourself a quality pair of headphones which will eliminate outside noises then you don't need the headphones out up as loud.... yeah but to mix well youu really need 1 ear in trhe head phones and 1 ear listening to the music i dont really beleave you can mix very well just using your headphones even with a split cue Link to post Share on other sites
brianmole 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 QUOTE Brian....You shouldn't need ear plugs fear.gif Just get yourself a quality pair of headphones which will eliminate outside noises then you don't need the headphones out up as loud.... My headphones are fine, they are industry standard Sony MDRV700. I do not wear them all the time for the whole performance, the damaging sound is when I am either in a club or working the sound system hard. QUOTE yeah but to mix well youu really need 1 ear in trhe head phones and 1 ear listening to the music i dont really beleave you can mix very well just using your headphones even with a split cue On a mobile, you don't use monitors, so in my mind, split cue is essential. How many times have you come across a dj booth where the monitors work? If you can master split cue, you will not need to rely on monitors to mix. My DJM600 gives the split cue functon, and it is not difficult to use. The secret of mixing is timing. If you try to beatmatch what is cued in one ear against the output from your main speakers which has bounced off the wall, the delay will throw you. Again, if you use headphones on split cue, this will not happen. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/smile.gif If you have had problems adjusting to split cue, and it will not work for you, try turning your headphones around so the left phone is on the right ear etc.. This may well sort you out - it has done for a friend of mine who could not get split cue to work for him. http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/cool.gif Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_Kray 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Maybe i am lucky the clubs i work in all have great working monitors. Also while i agree that you can get a 2 tunes in by using the split cue (i use a denon x1500 btw) I still feel to get the best out of a mix when you bring the tune in you really need to hear what the clubbers are hearing well in my humble opinion thats all http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/533.gif Link to post Share on other sites
brianmole 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 QUOTE you really need to hear what the clubbers are hearing That's very true. I need to grow a second set of ears http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/laugh.gif How are you getting on with the DNX1500? Gary made me drool all over it at PLASA with his excellent demonstration (Thanks again Gary), and I keep promising to buy one, but I need to sell my well loved DJM600 first http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/014.gif Link to post Share on other sites
Dj_Kray 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 QUOTE (brianmole @ Apr 21 2005, 11:17 PM) QUOTE you really need to hear what the clubbers are hearing That's very true. I need to grow a second set of ears http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/laugh.gif How are you getting on with the DNX1500? Gary made me drool all over it at PLASA with his excellent demonstration (Thanks again Gary), and I keep promising to buy one, but I need to sell my well loved DJM600 first http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/014.gif I love it i had the pioneer djm500 before which was great but the denon is a lot better all the effects are beat linked really well and sound great but then knowing gary im sure he has shown you everything already http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif It was gary then convinced me to get my denon 5000s in the first place http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites
brianmole 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 QUOTE It was gary then convinced me to get my denon 5000s in the first place Aah, there you got me. I love my CDJ1000s too much and find the dn-s5k too fiddly. Link to post Share on other sites
Corabar Steve 0 Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 (edited) QUOTE (paula @ Apr 13 2005, 02:23 PM) Nothing eliminates Karaoke singers http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/wacko.gif Shame! http://www.dj-forum.co.uk/html//emoticons/bash.gif Seriously tho a mate of mine wears ear plugs to all the live gigs he attends & has better hearing than I do, even right infront of the speakers he can hear me talking to him. Obviously something to do with filtration. Edited April 22, 2005 by Corabar Steve Steve... Mad bad & dangerous to know Better to study for one hour with the wise, than to drink wine with the foolish. The opinions of Corabar Steve are not necessarily those of Corabar Ltd or any of it's subsidiary companies <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
Corabar Steve 0 Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 QUOTE (Dj_Kray @ Apr 21 2005, 09:30 PM) yeah but to mix well youu really need 1 ear in trhe head phones and 1 ear listening to the music i dont really beleave you can mix very well just using your headphones even with a split cue That's what the Cue/Mix fader on your mixer is for Steve... Mad bad & dangerous to know Better to study for one hour with the wise, than to drink wine with the foolish. The opinions of Corabar Steve are not necessarily those of Corabar Ltd or any of it's subsidiary companies <a href="http://www.djassociates.org"><img src="http://www.djassociates.org/anims/compres_banner.gif" alt="Join the DJ Associates Disc Jockey Association" border="0" width="468" height="60"></a> Link to post Share on other sites
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